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Great !
I am looking for a proof for the following
$$ \frac{(-b)_{\infty}}{(a)_{\infty}} = \sum_{k \geq 0} \frac{\left(-b/a\right)_k} {(q)_k} a^k $$
I am looking for a proof for the following
$$ \frac{(-b)_{\infty}}{(a)_{\infty}} = \sum_{k \geq 0} \frac{\left(-b/a\right)_k} {(q)_k} a^k $$
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That looks like a variation on the q-binomial theorem. Have you looked for a proof in Gasper and Rahman?ZaidAlyafey said:Great !
I am looking for a proof for the following
$$ \frac{(-b)_{\infty}}{(a)_{\infty}} = \sum_{k \geq 0} \frac{\left(-b/a\right)_k} {(q)_k} a^k $$
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Thanks for the link , I really really appreciate it. I thought that q-series are interesting it reminds me of the famous relation between prime numbers and zeta function due to Euler . I was reading the NoteBook by Ramnujan and I was amazed by the vast results related to Hypergeometric functions which are a special case of q-series . I was hoping to read about the Jacobi theta function but I thought it would be better to start by q-series.
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By the way Opalg , do you think it is a hard thing to deal with because I was depressed to see how Ramanujan worked with these stuff and I was like what is that !
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Please don't expect to understand everything that Ramanujan could do! That way madness lies. (Tmi)ZaidAlyafey said:By the way Opalg , do you think it is a hard thing to deal with because I was depressed to see how Ramanujan worked with these stuff and I was like what is that !
There are results that Ramanujan somehow apprehended by intuition, that even today cannot be proved although they appear to be true, and nobody knows how he arrived at them. He must have had some quite unique insight that probably even he could not have explained.
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Hey , I am confused about the notations !
$$(a)_k = a(a+1)(a+2) \cdots (a+k-1)$$
$$(a)_k =(a;q)_k = \prod_{n=0}^{k-1} (1-aq^n)$$
The latter defines a base $q$ .
$$(a)_k = a(a+1)(a+2) \cdots (a+k-1)$$
$$(a)_k =(a;q)_k = \prod_{n=0}^{k-1} (1-aq^n)$$
The latter defines a base $q$ .
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I was assuming that $(a)_k$ was an abbreviation for $(a;q)_k$ (as here, for example), with the $q$ not explicitly mentioned. But I could well be wrong.ZaidAlyafey said:Hey , I am confused about the notations !
$$(a)_k = a(a+1)(a+2) \cdots (a+k-1)$$
$$(a)_k =(a;q)_k = \prod_{n=0}^{k-1} (1-aq^n)$$
The latter defines a base $q$ .
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Look at Pochhammer symbol.
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How to prove the following
$$\lim_{q \to 1}\frac{(a;q)_{\infty}}{(aq^x;q)_{\infty}}= (1-a)^x $$
It is kind of easy to prove it for $x\in \mathbb{Z}^+$
$$\lim_{q \to 1}\frac{(a;q)_{\infty}}{(aq^x;q)_{\infty}}= (1-a)^x $$
It is kind of easy to prove it for $x\in \mathbb{Z}^+$
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To simplify for those how don't understand the notations
$$(a;q)_{\infty}= \prod_{k=0}(1-aq^k)$$
Similarilry we have
$$(aq^x;q)_{\infty}= \prod_{k=0}(1-aq^{k+x})$$
So we have to prove that
$$\lim_{q \to 1}\prod_{k=0} \frac{1-aq^k}{1-aq^{k+x}} = (1-a)^ x$$
Any clue ?
$$(a;q)_{\infty}= \prod_{k=0}(1-aq^k)$$
Similarilry we have
$$(aq^x;q)_{\infty}= \prod_{k=0}(1-aq^{k+x})$$
So we have to prove that
$$\lim_{q \to 1}\prod_{k=0} \frac{1-aq^k}{1-aq^{k+x}} = (1-a)^ x$$
Any clue ?
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ZaidAlyafey said:How to prove the following
$$\lim_{q \to 1}\frac{(a;q)_{\infty}}{(aq^x;q)_{\infty}}= (1-a)^x $$
It is kind of easy to prove it for $x\in \mathbb{Z}^+$
Ok , I think I got it , this is a simple consequence of the q-binomial theorem
Consider the following
$${}_1\phi_0 (a;- ;q,z) = \sum_{k\geq 0}\frac{(a;q)_k}{(q;q)_k}z^k=\frac{(az;q)_{\infty}}{(z;q)_{\infty}}$$ (1)
In (1) let $a = q^{x}$ and $z = a$
$${}_1\phi_0 (q^x;- ;q,a) = \sum_{k\geq 0}\frac{(q^x;q)_k}{(q;q)_k}a^k=\frac{(aq^{x};q)_ {\infty} }{(a;q)_{\infty}}$$
Hence we have
$$\frac{(aq^{x};q)_{\infty}}{(a;q)_{\infty}}= \sum_{k\geq 0}\frac{(q^x;q)_k}{(q;q)_k}a^k$$
Now consider the limit
$$ \lim_{q \to 1}\frac{(aq^{x};q)_{\infty}}{(a;q)_{\infty}}= \lim_{q \to 1} \sum_{k\geq 0}\frac{(q^x;q)_k}{(q;q)_k}a^k$$(2)
Suppose that $$|a|<1$$ and [Math]|q|<1[/Math] so the sum is uniformly convergent on any sub-disk . So we have to approach $1$ from the left to stay in the disk !
The idea is use the L'Hospitale rule
$$\lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(q^x;q)_k}{(q;q)_k} = \lim_{q \to 1^-} \frac{(1-q^x)\cdot (1-q^{x+1}) \cdot(1-q^{x+2}) \cdots (1-q^{x+k-1}) }{(1-q)\cdot(1-q^2)\cdot(1-q^3) \cdots(1-q^k)}$$
which can be written as
$$\lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(q^x;q)_k}{(q;q)_k} = \lim_{q \to 1^-} \frac{(1-q^x)}{1-q}\cdot \lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(1-q^{x+1})}{1-q^2} \cdot \lim_{q \to 1} \frac{(1-q^{x+2})}{1-q^3} \cdots \lim_{q \to 1^-} \frac{(1-q^{x+k-1}) }{(1-q^k)}$$
$$ \lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(q^x;q)_k}{(q;q)_k} = \frac{x (x+1)(x+2)\cdots (x+k-1)}{1\cdot 2 \cdot 3 \cdots k} = \frac{(x)_k}{k!} $$
Substitute in (2)
$$ \lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(aq^{x};q)_{\infty}}{(a;q)_{\infty}}= \sum_{k\geq 0}\frac{(x)_k}{k!}a^k$$
The sum on the right is well-know $(1-x)^{-a}$
$$ \lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(aq^{x};q)_{\infty}}{(a;q)_{\infty}}= (1-x)^{-a} $$ (3)
From (3) we conclude that
$$ \lim_{q \to 1^-}\frac{(a;q)_{\infty}}{ (aq^{x};q)_{\infty}}= (1-x)^{a} $$
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