Self Capacitance of Coils & Shielding: Calculate & Understand

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The discussion centers on the self-capacitance of coils and the effects of conductive shielding on capacitance. A coil with 25 turns and a 250mm diameter is examined, with conflicting information regarding the impact of grounded versus ungrounded shielding. Key insights include the necessity of using a dielectric material, such as tape, between the coil and the shielding to manage capacitance effectively. Additionally, it is emphasized that the capacitance is inversely proportional to the thickness of the dielectric, and precautions must be taken to avoid shorting the shielding material.

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Hi,

I am reading conflicting things about self Capacitance when Shielding a Coil, can someone help..
IE: I have a coil of wire --say 25 turns, 250mm dia formed from looping in my hands & bound together with a non conductive thread.

I have read on some sites that there is no affect on Capacitance when the Conductive Shielding is Grounded & then on other sites they say it affects Capacitance grounded or not?

Now my questions are, how do i work out the coil to shield capacitance if i wrap a conductive shielding material around this to eliminate stray fields from interupting the received signals.

Firstly with no AIR gap between the coil & shielding material?

Then also by introducing an Air gap between the coil & the shielding material how does this effect the results?

Or is there an online Calculator to do this?

I understand i will have to leave a small gap in the ends of the shield material to avoid unwanted eddy currents circulating in it.

Thank You
 
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You normally don't shield with a coil of wire, but copper tape. The capacitance you seem to be referring to developes between the sheild and windings. Place dialectric (tape) between the shield and outer winding. The capacitance is inversely porportional to the thickness of the dielectric of course.

By the way, don't short the tape to itself as it wraps around (This constitutes a single turn shorted secondary.) but overlap the ends with insulation between them.
 
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