Separable Solutions of Laplace's Equation in Polar Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around finding separable solutions of Laplace's equation in polar coordinates, specifically looking for solutions of the form V(r, θ) = R(r)S(θ). The context includes boundary conditions and the behavior of the potential V in specific regions defined by concentric circles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the separation of variables and the implications of boundary conditions on the solutions. There are attempts to derive expressions for V based on given conditions, and questions about the validity of certain solutions based on their behavior at infinity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different approaches to the problem, including the use of series expansions and the implications of various constants in their solutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the selection of solutions based on boundary conditions, but there is no explicit consensus on the final forms of the solutions.

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Participants are considering the implications of boundary conditions at specific radii and the behavior of the potential V as r approaches infinity. There is an ongoing examination of the conditions under which certain solutions may be discarded based on their physical relevance.

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Homework Statement



Laplace's equation in 2 dimensions may be written, using plane polar coordinates r, θ, as
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Find all separable solutions of this equation which have the form V(r, θ)=R(r)S(θ), which are single valued for all r, θ. What property of the equation makes any linear combination of such solutions also a solution?

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i get how to separate the variables and i am left with to expressions equaling a constant. but from there it doesn't make sense to me how to end up with 2 solutions
 
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assume a seperable solution then sub it in and do the derivatives. then multiply thorugh by \frac{r^2}{RS}

if you make your constant \lambda you should get a nice solution for \lambda>0 hint : let R=r^m with m a constant. the others will be less pretty unless you have simplifying boundary conditions.
 
ok, got it thanks. the second part of the question which i didnt include before is:
A continuous potential V(r, θ) satisfies Laplace's equation everywhere except on the concentric circles r=a, r=b where b>a.
(i) Given that V(r=a, θ)=Vo(1+cos θ), and that V is finite as r-->infinity , find V in the region r less than or equal to a
(ii) given, separately, that V(r=0, θ)=2Vo and V is finite as r--> ∞, find V for r≥b

for (i), i don't really know how to select solutions for that V. my solutions arecombinations of sinmtheta cosmtheta r^m and r^-m. is there a way to do this through an expansion?
 
ok i think that the periodicity of the cos term means that the solutions for \lambda<0 are useless here and the \lambda=0 solutions will be trivial after you apply the b.c. that it must be finit as r goes to infinity.

so for the \lambda>0 solutions i have

V=(Ar^n+Br^{-n})(C \cos{n \theta} + D \sin{n \theta})

for this to be finite at infinity what can you say about the coefficient of r^n
 
then for finding V in the region r<a, your right to think of expansions, consider

\frac{1}{2}c_0 + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} r^{-m} (c_n \cos{n \theta} + d_n \sin{n \theta})

equate this to the boundary condition you have and you should be able to work out the relative non-zero coefficients.

my answer : V(r&lt;a)=2V_0+\frac{aV_0}{r}
 
for this to be finite at infinity what can you say about the coefficient of r^n

Well Br^-n goes to 0 so A should be a constant or 1 so that the whole expression doesn't go to zero?
 
zero is finite though. so that's allowed. what is not allowed is have \infty^n. so what can you say about A and B now?
 
ok so should i then just throw out the solutions r^n and r^-n since they don't meet the initial condition?
 

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