Separating Variables: Solving Differential Equations

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The discussion revolves around the separation of variables in the context of solving a differential equation represented by the formula (dy/dx) + 1 = - (y/x). Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including separation of variables, Laplace transforms, and Euler's solution for first-order linear differential equations.

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  • Participants discuss the feasibility of separating variables and question whether it is possible to solve the equation using Laplace transforms or Euler's method. There are suggestions for substitutions and the use of integrating factors as alternative approaches.

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Several methods have been proposed, including substitutions and integrating factors. Some participants express uncertainty about the separation of variables, while others suggest alternative techniques. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Participants mention the need for additional conditions to determine constants in the solution, indicating that specific initial or boundary conditions may be relevant to the discussion.

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Good day,

I have to separate the variables of the formula (dy/dx) + 1 = - (y/x)
so I can determine the solution of the differential equation.

I get:
(dy/dx) + 1 = - (y/x)
(dy/dx) = - (y/x) - 1
(dy) = (- (y/x) - 1)dx

Though I cannot get rid of the y at the side of dx...
 
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I don't think you can solve it by separation of variables.
 
Right, thanks. Would it be possible by using Laplace transform?
 
possibly, but it would be much easier to use euler's solution to first order linear differential equations.
 
I already did, but now I want to check the accuracy of the Euler's solution for this differential equation.
 
I recommend the substitution u= y/x. y= xu so y'= xu'+ u and the equation y'= -y/x- 1 becomes xu'+ u= -u- 1 or x du/dx= -2u-1 which is separable.
 
an integrating factor would work as well.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I recommend the substitution u= y/x. y= xu so y'= xu'+ u and the equation y'= -y/x- 1 becomes xu'+ u= -u- 1 or x du/dx= -2u-1 which is separable.
Thanks!

an integrating factor would work as well.
Thanks, I get:

y(x) = (c/x) - (x/2)

How can I determine the value of the constant now?
 
Are you asking permission?:wink: Certainly if you have some additional condition, you can use that to find c.
 

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