Seperation of Variables/Integrating Factor Method

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The discussion focuses on solving the first-order linear equation dy/dx + ay = b using both the integrating factor method and separation of variables. A user expresses confidence in their solutions but struggles to equate the results from both methods. They outline their steps for each method, highlighting a mistake in the separation of variables approach. A response points out the error in the user's separation method, clarifying that the derivation does not hold. The user acknowledges the mistake and expresses gratitude for the clarification.
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Homework Statement


The first order linear equation of the form:
\frac{dy}{dx} + ay = b
where a and b are constants, can be solved both by the integrating factor method and by separation of variables. Solve the equation using both methods to see that you get the same solution.



Homework Equations


Separation of variables and Integrating factor equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I am 80% sure that I have correctly found the solution using both methods; however, I am having trouble equating the two solutions. This is what I have done so far, first I will show using the integrating factor method, followed by separation of variables:
p(x) = a
u(x) = e^{ax}
\frac{d}{dx}(e^{ax} y(x)) = be^{ax}
\int\frac{d}{dx}(e^{ax} y(x))\,dx = \int be^{ax}\, dx
e^{ax} y(x) = abe^{ax} + C
y(x) = ab + \frac{C}{e^ax}
Now again using the separation of variables method:
\frac{dy}{dx} = b-ay
\frac{dy}{y} = (b-a)dx
\int\frac{dy}{y} = \int b-a\, dx
ln(y) = bx - ax + C
y = e^{bx} - e^{ax} + e^C
 
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(b-ay)/y =b/y -a
 
_N3WTON_ said:

Homework Statement


The first order linear equation of the form:
\frac{dy}{dx} + ay = b
where a and b are constants, can be solved both by the integrating factor method and by separation of variables. Solve the equation using both methods to see that you get the same solution.



Homework Equations


Separation of variables and Integrating factor equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I am 80% sure that I have correctly found the solution using both methods; however, I am having trouble equating the two solutions. This is what I have done so far, first I will show using the integrating factor method, followed by separation of variables:
p(x) = a
u(x) = e^{ax}
\frac{d}{dx}(e^{ax} y(x)) = be^{ax}
\int\frac{d}{dx}(e^{ax} y(x))\,dx = \int be^{ax}\, dx
e^{ax} y(x) = abe^{ax} + C
y(x) = ab + \frac{C}{e^ax}
Now again using the separation of variables method:
\frac{dy}{dx} = b-ay
\frac{dy}{y} = (b-a)dx
\int\frac{dy}{y} = \int b-a\, dx
ln(y) = bx - ax + C
y = e^{bx} - e^{ax} + e^C

Never write ##1/e^{ax}##; always write it as ##e^{-ax}##, because that way you can apply standard differentiation/integration formulas.

Your second method has an obvious blunder: from
\frac{dy}{dx} = b-ay
it dos NOT follow that
\frac{dy}{y} = (b-a)dx \: \longleftarrow \:\text{false}
 
Ray Vickson said:
Never write ##1/e^{ax}##; always write it as ##e^{-ax}##, because that way you can apply standard differentiation/integration formulas.

Your second method has an obvious blunder: from
\frac{dy}{dx} = b-ay
it dos NOT follow that
\frac{dy}{y} = (b-a)dx \: \longleftarrow \:\text{false}
im a little confused about what is wrong with the separation I performed?
Edit: Nvm I see it now, thank you
 
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