Sequence of integrable functions on [0,1]

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a sequence of integrable functions \{f_n(x)\} on the interval [0,1] that converges pointwise to a function f(x). Participants explore whether the limit function f is integrable and if it satisfies the condition \int_0^1 f(x) dx = 1, given certain constraints on the sequence.

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  • One participant questions if the limit function f is integrable and satisfies \int_0^1 f(x) dx = 1, given that 0 \leq f_n(x) \leq f(x) and \int_0^1 f_n(x) dx = 1 for all n.
  • Another participant provides a counterexample using a sequence of functions defined by an isosceles triangle, showing that while \int_0^1 f_n(x) dx = 1, the limit function f(x) converges to 0, leading to \int_0^1 f(x) dx \neq 1.
  • One participant introduces the sequences g_n(x) and h_n(x) as the infimum and supremum of the sequence of functions, respectively, and argues that by monotone convergence, the integrals converge to 1.
  • Another participant agrees with the previous point and mentions that Fatou's lemma can also be applied, suggesting that \int f \leq 1, indicating f is integrable.
  • A later reply confirms that the inequality follows from the monotonicity of the integral.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the limit function f is integrable and satisfies the integral condition. While some propose that it can be shown through monotone convergence and Fatou's lemma, others present counterexamples that challenge this conclusion. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

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Participants note that the standard Lebesgue convergence theorems do not seem to apply in this case, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which the limit function's properties can be established.

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If you have a sequence of integrable functions \{f_n(x)\} on [0,1] which converges to a function f(x) pointwise for every x\in [0,1] that has the following properties:

(1) 0 \leq f_n(x) \leq f(x) for every n and every x; and

(2) \int_0^1 f_n(x)dx = 1 for every n;

does it necessarily follow that the limit function f is integrable and satisfies \int_0^1 f(x) dx = 1?

I can't think of why this would need to be true using the standard Lebesgue convergence theorems (bounded, monotone, or dominated), since none of them seem to apply. But I can't think of a counterexample to save the life of me. Can anyone help?
 
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Draw an isoceles at 0.5 with width l_n = 2^{-n}, and height h_n= 2^{n+1} for each n. Let f_n(x) be the curve of the triangle where it occurs except at 0.5, and 0 elsewhere. f_n(x) is surely lebesgue integrable (but not continuous at 0.5), and:
\int^{1}_0 f_n(x) dx = \int^{\frac{1}{2}}_0 f_n(x) dx + \int^{1}_{\frac{1}{2}} f_n(x) dx =\frac{1}{2}l_nh_n=2^{-1-n+n+1}=1
which is obviously true because a continuous function need not be continuous at it's end points to be integrable.

However, this function converges pointwise to f(x) = 0. This is obvious: any point on [0,1] will surely be valued to 0 by f_n for all n > N for some N (you can find this N explicitly for each such point if you want by a simple calculation).
And since f_(1/2) = 0 for all n, f_n(x) \to 0 for all x as n \to \infty.

And surely; \int^1_0 f(x) dx \not = 1.

EDIT: Oh, I mistakingly read the first equation to be 0 \leq f(x) \leq f_n(x). Nevermind then, but I will try to find a solution to this problem as well.
 
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Let g_n(x) = \inf_{k \ge n} f_k(x) and h_n(x) = \sup_{k \le n} f_k(x). Then g_n(x) \le f_n(x) \le h_n(x), and (g_n), (h_n) are both increasing sequences, and both converge pointwise to f. By monotone convergence, 1 = \lim \int f_n \le \lim \int h_n = \int f = \lim \int g_n \le \lim \int f_n = 1.

I think it works.edit: The statement also follows immediately and more nicely from Fatou's lemma, so check that out.
 
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adriank said:
Let g_n(x) = \inf_{k \ge n} f_k(x) and h_n(x) = \sup_{k \le n} f_k(x). Then g_n(x) \le f_n(x) \le h_n(x), and (g_n), (h_n) are both increasing sequences, and both converge pointwise to f. By monotone convergence, 1 = \lim \int f_n \le \lim \int h_n = \int f = \lim \int g_n \le \lim \int f_n = 1.

I think it works.edit: The statement also follows immediately and more nicely from Fatou's lemma, so check that out.
Thanks for the response! I know Fatou's lemma states \int \liminf f_n \leq \liminf \int f_n, and that in this case, we have \liminf f_n = f and \liminf \int f_n = 1, which gives \int f \leq 1 < \infty, implying f is integrable. Does the other inequality follow from monotonicity of the integral: 1 = \int f_n \leq \int f?
 
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It sure does.
 

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