Sequences, convergance and limits.

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The discussion revolves around the convergence and limits of the sequence defined by An = (n+3)^(1/(n+3)). Participants are exploring whether the sequence converges or diverges and are attempting to find the limit of the sequence as n approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are discussing various methods to find the limit, including using L'Hospital's rule and logarithmic transformations. There is uncertainty about the differentiation process and the application of logarithmic properties to simplify the limit calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different approaches and questioning the effectiveness of their methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of logarithms and L'Hospital's rule, but there remains a lack of consensus on the best approach to take.

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Participants express confusion about the calculus concepts involved, particularly in differentiating expressions and applying limits. There is an indication of a struggle with foundational calculus principles, which may affect their ability to proceed with the problem.

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Homework Statement


An = (n+3)^1/(n+3)
Converge or diverges? Find the limit of the convergent sequences.

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I have the solution but I don't understand it. I'm looking to get it.

It shows me taking the limit as x->infinity of x^1/x and determine that it is 1. (Thus the series converges). I am not sure at all how to find the limits though, I'm lost in my calculus class. Any guidance would be great.
 
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Use the fact that [tex]m^{1/m} = e^{\ln (m^{1/m})}[/tex] and then for example the L'Hospital rule to calculate the limit for a large m.
 
So my f(x) would be my original

and the g(x) would be my e^lnn(n+3)^(1/n+3)

I put f'(x) over g'(x) and keep going until it's not 0/0, whatever I do get beside 0/0 is my limit?

I'm honestly stuck trying to differentiate my g(x) ;X Is this the only way to go about this?
 
Take the log of your expression. Then you should get something of the form f(n)/g(n). You won't get that till you take the log.
 
log of n+3?

I don't see how that gets me anywhere?
 
amplifierr said:
log of n+3?

I don't see how that gets me anywhere?

No, log((n+3)^(1/(n+3))).
 
you want me to derive that then? Sorry I'm lost at the moment.
 
amplifierr said:
you want me to derive that then? Sorry I'm lost at the moment.

I want you to use the rules of logs and turn that into a quotient of infinity/infinity form, then use l'Hopital.
 
(n+3)^[1/(n+3)] is just the same as saying x^(1/x).

x^(1/x) = e^(1/x lnx)

the limit as x -> infinity, lim x^(1/x) = lim e^(1/x lnx) = e^lim (lnx / x)

lim (lnx / x) = lim (1/x) {Le Hopital's rule}
= 0

Thus, e^0 = 1

and the series is convergent
 

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