Sequences, subsequences and limits

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The problem involves sequences, subsequences, and limits, specifically focusing on demonstrating the existence of a subsequence of rational numbers that diverges to positive infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need for a strictly increasing and unbounded sequence of rational numbers. Some suggest defining a sequence that exceeds a given rational number, while others question the implications of choosing specific elements from the rationals.

Discussion Status

There are various lines of reasoning being explored, including the construction of a strictly increasing sequence and the necessity of demonstrating unboundedness. Some participants have offered guidance on the characteristics needed for the sequence, while others raise concerns about the definitions and assumptions being used.

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Participants are considering the implications of selecting rational numbers and the properties of limits, particularly in relation to the completeness of the rational numbers.

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Homework Statement


Let (rn) be an enumeration of the set Q of all rational numbers. Show that there exists a subsequence (rnk) such that limk\rightarrow\infty rnk = +\infty


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Im not sure how to even attack this
 
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If you can make your sequence strictly increasing and unbounded, then it works. Remember that there are only finitely many possible rational numbers before the nth rational number, and yet there are infinitely many rational numbers bigger than whatever the nth rational number is.
 
So how about this: Let (rnk) be a sequence of real numbers such that:

1. rn1 > a, a\epsilon Q
2. (rnk) is strictly increasing
ie. rn1 < rn2 ... < rnk >

Then the lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} r_{n}_{k} = \infty
 
If your 'a' is simply any element of the rational numbers, then your r_n_1 is going to be the supremum of the rationals, which is not in the rationals.

Also, after you show that something's strictly increasing, you have to show that it's also unbounded, meaning that for any M, you can pick r_n_k such that r_n_k > M. After all, the partial sums of sigma from i=1 to infinity of (1/2)^i are constantly increasing, but always less than 2.
 

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