Series Boundedness: A Challenging Mathematical Question

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The discussion revolves around the boundedness of the series \(\sum^{\infty}_{1}(-1)^n*(1+\frac{1}{n})^n\). Participants explore various mathematical approaches and reasoning related to the series, including limits, convergence, and the application of Taylor expansions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the series is bounded and expresses difficulty in addressing the problem.
  • Another participant references the limit \(\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left(1 + \frac{1}{n}\right)^n\) as a relevant consideration.
  • A different participant claims the series diverges based on the limit of its terms not approaching zero, but seeks further information on boundedness.
  • One participant suggests that the sum of two consecutive terms approaches zero at a rate of \(O(1/n^2)\), implying that the original series is bounded.
  • There is a request for clarification regarding the inequality involving consecutive terms and their relationship to \(1/n^2\).
  • A later reply confirms the need to establish an inequality involving \(N\) and \(C\) to show boundedness, suggesting the use of Taylor expansion for logarithmic functions.
  • Another participant attempts to compute the Taylor expansion but struggles with the non-linearity of the exponential function.
  • One participant provides an approximation for the exponential function, breaking down the terms and their rates of decay.
  • A final participant expresses appreciation for the insights shared but acknowledges the complexity of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the boundedness of the series, with some proposing methods to demonstrate it while others remain uncertain or seek clarification. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the boundedness of the series.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical techniques, including limits, Taylor expansions, and inequalities, but the discussion contains unresolved steps and assumptions regarding the series' behavior.

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I asked by someone.
But I can't answer to it.
[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{1}(-1)^n*(1+\frac{1}{n})^n[/tex]
Is this series bounded?
I can't do anything about that.
 
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Do you know what

[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left(1 + \frac{1}{n}\right)^n[/tex]

equals?
 
I know this series diverge by lim an=e, not zero.
But I can't figure out it's bounded.
Would you give me more informations?
 
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The sum of any two consecutive terms goes to zero as O(1/n^2). Since the sum of 1/n^2 is convergent, you can prove that your original series is bounded.
 
hmm... Do you mean (1 + 1/(n+1))^(n+1) - (1 + 1/n)^n ≤1/n^2?
I can not understand it. Give me more information, please.
 
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emptyboat said:
hmm... Do you mean (1 + 1/(n+1))^(n+1) - (1 + 1/n)^n ≤1/n^2?
I can not understand it. Give me more information, please.

Correct. You need to prove that there's such N and C that, for all n>N,

(1 + 1/(n+1))^(n+1) - (1 + 1/n)^n ≤ C/n^2

You can do that if you write

(1+1/n)^n = exp(n log (1+1/n))

and then use Taylor expansion of log.
 
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I computed the process you have given.
log(x)=(x-1) - 1/2*(x-1)^2 + 1/3*(x-1)^3 - ...(correct?)
So My result is
exp (1 - 1/2(n+1) + 1/3(n+1)^2 - ...)
- exp (1 - 1/2n + 1/3n^2 - ...)
let exp(A(n+1)) - exp((An))
exp does not linear, I can't do further.
Help me more...
 
[tex]exp(1 - \frac{1}{2n} + \frac{1}{3n^2} + ...) \approx e*( - \frac{1}{2n} + \frac{1}{3n^2}) + ( - \frac{1}{2n} + \frac{1}{3n^2})^2/2 + ...) = e*(-\frac{1}{2n}+\frac{1}{3n^2} + \frac{1}{8n^2} + ...) = e*(-\frac{1}{2n}+\frac{11}{24n^2} + ... )[/tex]

where ... are terms that go down as 1/n^3 or faster.

[tex]|\frac{1}{2(n+1)} - \frac{1}{2n}| = \frac{1}{2n(n+1)} < \frac{1}{2n^2}[/tex]
 
Oh I see!
Thank you for your advice.
I think this problem is very hard to solve!
 

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