Series Homework Question: Divergent or Convergent? Methods Compared

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of a series using the ratio test. The original poster presents a series involving a summation of the form ∑ n/(3^1 + 3n) and expresses uncertainty about their solution compared to a video reference.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the ratio test to their series and questions whether their approach was correct after comparing it with another source. Some participants inquire about the correctness of the original poster's application of the ratio test.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the validity of the ratio test application. The original poster acknowledges a potential error in their work and expresses intent to correct it. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the possibility of finding an explicit sum for the series.

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Participants are navigating through the details of the ratio test and its application, with some uncertainty about simplifications and limit calculations. The original poster references a video that may have influenced their understanding of the problem.

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I was watching a PatrickJMT video on ratio test and he gave this problem. I solved it before he did, and he got that it was divergent. He didn't simplify it initially, so our methods of approach are different. Did I do something wrong? I checked my calculator to make sure all my simplifications were correct. So I'm assuming I did something near the limit portion that was incorrect (if at all). Thanks


∑ n/31+3n
n=1

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



∑ n/31+3n = n/(3⋅27n)
n=1

lim |(n+1)/(3⋅27n+1) / (n/3 *27n)|
n→∞

= lim |(n+1)/n| * (1/27)
n→∞
= 1 * 1/27
=1/27 < 1

Convergent by Ratio Test
 
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Did you use the ratio test correctly?
 
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Math_QED said:
Did you use the ratio test correctly?
Nope. Got it, thanks.

[edit]

Actually I typed my work incorrectly. I'll fix it. but to be sure...
 
Of Mike and Men said:

Homework Statement


I was watching a PatrickJMT video on ratio test and he gave this problem. I solved it before he did, and he got that it was divergent. He didn't simplify it initially, so our methods of approach are different. Did I do something wrong? I checked my calculator to make sure all my simplifications were correct. So I'm assuming I did something near the limit portion that was incorrect (if at all). Thanks


∑ n/31+3n
n=1

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



∑ n/31+3n = n/(3⋅27n)
n=1

lim |(n+1)/(3⋅27n+1) / (n/3 *27n)|
n→∞

= lim |(n+1)/n| * (1/27)
n→∞
= 1 * 1/27
=1/27 < 1

Convergent by Ratio Test

It is convergent, as you have shown correctly using the ratio test.

You can actually find the sum ##\sum_{n=1}^N n/3^{3n+1}## explicitly (as a reasonably simple closed-from expression in ##N##), then take the limit as ##N \to \infty##. All you need to do is find a formula for ##f_N(x) =\sum_{n=1}^N n x^n##, and these are widely available, or you can work it out as ##f_N(x) = x (d/dx) g_N(x)##, where ##g_N(x) = \sum_{n=1}^N x^n##, which is elementary.
 
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