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The discussion revolves around the simplification of infinite series, specifically focusing on the series \(\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} 2^{2n}3^{1-n}\) and \(\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{3^n+2^n}{6^n}\). Participants are exploring how to correctly express these series in a simplified form and the implications of their interpretations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the transition from one form of the series to another, questioning the steps involved in simplification. There is confusion regarding the parameters of the geometric series and how to identify the first term and common ratio correctly.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the simplification process and the correct identification of series parameters. There is ongoing exploration of the differences in interpretations of the series and how they relate to the geometric series formula.

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Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made in their calculations and the rules governing the simplification of series. There is mention of discrepancies between personal calculations and those found in solution manuals.

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Hi,

I'm a bit confused when it comes to the simplification here. I must've had a brain fart or something when we were going over this, but if I had the following series:

[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} 2^{2n}3^{1-n}[/tex]

I know enough to go this far:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{2^{2n}}{3^{n-1}}[/tex]

But my textbook goes on to make the above into this:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} 4(\frac{4}{3})^{n-1}[/tex]

I know that this is just a simplification, but how do they get from my second step to the above step? I thought I knew how, but this proved wrong on a couple of different problems I was working on.Also, for this series:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{3^n+2^n}{6^n}[/tex]

I've done this:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{3^n+2^n}{6^n} = \sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{3^n}{6^n}+\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{2^n}{6^n} = \sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} (\frac{1}{2})^n + \sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} (\frac{1}{3})^n[/tex]

So for the first sum, a=1 and r=1/2, and for the second sum a=1 and r=1/3.

But this is apparently wrong. From the solution manual, for the first one, a=1/2 and r=1/2, for the second one, a=1/3 and r=1/3.Can someone explain this? Thanks!
 
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Use (x^n)^m=x^(mn)
 
verd said:
Hi,

I'm a bit confused when it comes to the simplification here. I must've had a brain fart or something when we were going over this, but if I had the following series:

[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} 2^{2n}3^{1-n}[/tex]

I know enough to go this far:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{2^{2n}}{3^{n-1}}[/tex]

But my textbook goes on to make the above into this:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} 4(\frac{4}{3})^{n-1}[/tex]

I know that this is just a simplification, but how do they get from my second step to the above step? I thought I knew how, but this proved wrong on a couple of different problems I was working on.

[tex]\sum _{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{2^{2n}}{3^{n-1}} = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(2^2)2^{2n-2}}{3^{n-1}} = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} 4\left( \frac{2^2}{3} \right)^{n-1} = \sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} 4\left( \frac{4}{3} \right)^{n-1}[/tex]

verd said:
Also, for this series:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{3^n+2^n}{6^n}[/tex]

I've done this:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} \frac{3^n+2^n}{6^n} = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{3^n}{6^n} + \sum _{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{2^n}{6^n} = \sum _{n=1}^{\infty} (\frac{1}{2})^n + \sum _{n=1}^{\infty} (\frac{1}{3})^n[/tex]

So for the first sum, a=1 and r=1/2, and for the second sum a=1 and r=1/3.

But this is apparently wrong. From the solution manual, for the first one, a=1/2 and r=1/2, for the second one, a=1/3 and r=1/3.


Can someone explain this?


Thanks!
It might help if you expand each sum,

[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} (\frac{1}{2})^n = \frac{1}{2} + \left(\frac{1}{2}\right) \left(\frac{1}{2}\right) + \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^2 + ...[/tex]


[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} (\frac{1}{3})^n = \frac{1}{3} + \left(\frac{1}{3}\right) \left(\frac{1}{3} \right) + \left(\frac{1}{3} \right)\left(\frac{1}{3} \right)^2 + ...[/tex]
 
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Thanks for your help. I get the first part with the simplification.

The second part though, I'm having a bit of trouble understanding... I don't understand why my answer wouldn't work.

By that rationale, you'd have:
[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} (\frac{1}{2})^n = \frac{1}{2} + \left(\frac{1}{2}\right) \left(\frac{1}{2}\right) + \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)\left(\frac{1}{2}\right) + ...[/tex]

I mean, it seems that no matter what, it's [tex]ar^n[/tex], and if my r is just 1/2, it'd be 1*r^n... But then the whole a/1-r rule isn't working.

They look like they'd give the same answers. Is there some sort of rule or something that says that you have to do it this way? I'm still a bit confused... ahy.
 
compare the expansion to the general equation of a geometric series

[tex]a + ar + ar^2 + ...[/tex]

pay particularly close attention to the first term of each sum.
 
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that seems like it'd make sense if n started at 0...

[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} ar^n[/tex]
would give you: [tex]ar^1+ar^2+ar^3+ar^4+...[/tex]
wouldn't it?
 
ah. I see. It's

[tex]\sum _{n=1} ^{\infty} ar^{n-1}[/tex]That changes everything.
 

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