Setting Up Multiple Routers in an Apartment Network

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The discussion revolves around setting up multiple routers in an apartment network, focusing on IP address configuration, subnet masks, and connectivity issues. Participants share their experiences and seek clarification on networking principles relevant to their specific situations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the default IP of their wireless router needs to be different from the existing router and if they can share the same subnet mask.
  • Another participant suggests that devices can have the same subnet mask, implying that connectivity can still function without differing IP addresses, although they express uncertainty about this claim.
  • A later reply emphasizes that two devices cannot share the same IP address on the same network for communication to work, highlighting the importance of unique IP addresses.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of having the same subnet mask for proper network communication, with one participant using an analogy to telephone numbers to illustrate the need for unique addresses.
  • One participant clarifies their earlier mention of "default IP," indicating it refers to the router's assigned IP that needs to be changed to avoid conflicts.
  • Questions are raised about the specific network setup, including the functionality of the ethernet jack and the presence of other wireless signals in the apartment building.
  • One participant acknowledges having resolved their issue and reflects on their initial question as being somewhat naive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of unique IP addresses and the implications of subnet masks. While some assert that unique IPs are essential for communication, others suggest that certain configurations may still work without them. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for setting up multiple routers in this context.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific network configurations in the apartment, as well as the implications of having multiple routers and their interactions with existing networks.

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I live in an apartment building where one router is used and every apartment room has its ethernet connection. I'm trying to set up my wireless router in my room. The default ip of the router just has to be different than the other router correct? Can they have the same subnet mask?
 
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In my apartment, there are actually 5 computers activated with internet connections, divided into 2 or 3 groups, 3-2. or 1-2-2, I am not sure because I am not curious enough :confused:. The other three don't configure anything, just plug-n-play, I guess they are the same as your case.
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You can have the same subnetmask for your computers like mine, and there is no need for the difference in ip since things still work fine if I am not mistaken. Sorry, I don't want to re-test.
 
Tony11235 said:
I live in an apartment building where one router is used and every apartment room has its ethernet connection. I'm trying to set up my wireless router in my room. The default ip of the router just has to be different than the other router correct? Can they have the same subnet mask?

By Default IP what do you mean?

Two devices can't have the same IP address (there are special cicumstances that disprove this rule, but yours isn't one of them) on the same "network" if u want them to communicate via IP.

They have to have the same subnet mask or IP won't work properly. The subnet mask is a means for the network application/device to find out if a device is within the same subnet or not. Which is important for end to end communication.

You can have the same subnetmask for your computers like mine, and there is no need for the difference in ip since things still work fine if I am not mistaken. Sorry, I don't want to re-test.
Sorry this doesn't make a whole lot of sence..

IP is just an Addressing scheme, imagine everyone had the same telephone number do u think that would work? No of course not, so for your computer to communicate with another computer over a network you need to have different IP address...
 
By default ip, i meant the ip that the router is assigned. I had to change the ip of my wireless router because what it was originally assigned would have been the same as the other router which is not in my hands.
 
Okay, I've lived in a few apartments where this was the case. Let me ask a few questions to better help you. (Unless the problem is fixed).

- Does only your computer work in the ethernet jack (as opposed to a friend's computer, or the router)
- How many people are in your apartment
- Are you able to find wireless signals that other residents have (may be hard to tell)
 
Kirro said:
Okay, I've lived in a few apartments where this was the case. Let me ask a few questions to better help you. (Unless the problem is fixed).

- Does only your computer work in the ethernet jack (as opposed to a friend's computer, or the router)
- How many people are in your apartment
- Are you able to find wireless signals that other residents have (may be hard to tell)

Oh I fixed the problem a while back ago. Pretty n00bish question. I didn't think about it enough before I asked. I have a private network inside the apartment network setup.
 

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