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The discussion revolves around combinatorial and probability problems, specifically focusing on random walks in a grid, ternary sequences, and the division of a plane by lines. Participants seek to solve specific mathematical questions and explore the underlying principles and relationships involved.

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  • One participant poses a series of questions related to probability and combinatorics, including random walks and ternary sequences.
  • Another suggests starting with possible routes or sequences to find a general description and calculate probabilities, mentioning the utility of tree diagrams.
  • Some participants propose specific probability calculations for the random walk questions, with one suggesting a formula for the probability of reaching the boundary after 8 steps and returning to the starting point after 4 steps.
  • Disagreement arises regarding the number of regions created by lines in the plane, with one participant asserting that there is a single answer while another believes it depends on how the planes are divided.
  • Clarification is sought on the interpretation of the ternary sequence problem, indicating confusion over the phrasing of the question.
  • Participants share their findings on the recurrence relation for the number of regions, with one suggesting a relationship based on previous values.

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Participants express differing views on the number of regions created by lines and the interpretation of the ternary sequence problem. There is no consensus on these points, and some calculations are contested.

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Some participants mention the need for clear sketches to visualize line intersections, indicating that assumptions about the arrangement of lines may affect the conclusions drawn. The phrasing of the ternary sequence problem remains ambiguous, contributing to uncertainty in responses.

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Individuals interested in combinatorics, probability theory, and mathematical reasoning may find the discussion relevant, particularly those looking to explore problem-solving strategies in these areas.

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1) Suppose that the streets of a city are laid out in a grid with streets running north–south and east–west. Consider the following scheme for patrolling an area of 16 blocks by 16 blocks. An officer commences walking at the intersection in the center of the area. At the corner of each block the officer randomly elects to go north, south, east, or west. What is the probability that the officer will
a. reach the boundary of the patrol area after walking the first 8 blocks?
b. return to the starting point after walking exactly 4 blocks?

2) How many k-digit ternary sequences (sequences of 0s, 1s, and 2s) have the total number of 0s and 1s as even number of 0s and 1 even?

3) Find a recurrence relation for the number of regions n lines divide the plane into. Assume all lines are straight, no lines are parallel and no three lines intersect in the same point. For example: A single line divides the plane into two regions.

How to solve these questions?
 
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Askhwhelp said:
How to solve these questions?
Start with looking for possible routes/sequences/... that satisfy the condition (like "reaching the boundary after 8 steps"). Then try to find a general description for all of them, and calculate the probabilities of all of them (a tree diagram can help).

If you need a formula for n steps, look at 1, 2, 3, 4 steps to get a feeling for the problem.
 
Is 1a (1/4)^8 * 4
And 1b (1/4)^4 * 20

For 3)
I have a1 = 2, a2 = 4, a3= 5 or 7, a4=6,8 or 9
I could not find any relationship between them.
 
1a and 1b are right.

a3= 5 or 7
Why or? There is a single number for each number of lines.
a4=6,8 or 9
That does not look right.

I don't understand what " have the total number of 0s and 1s as even number of 0s and 1 even" means in the problem statement of (2).
 
For a3 and a4, it depend in how you divides the planes. Then I got a different number of regions. Try it divide it and you might see what I am talking about
 
Askhwhelp said:
For a3 and a4, it depend in how you divides the planes. Then I got a different number of regions. Try it divide it and you might see what I am talking about
Did you make sure that your sketch is large enough to see all line intersections?

I know how the image looks like and there is a single answer. If you get multiple options, can you show what you did? There has to be some error in the sketch.
 
mfb said:
Did you make sure that your sketch is large enough to see all line intersections?

I know how the image looks like and there is a single answer. If you get multiple options, can you show what you did? There has to be some error in the sketch.

Thank you for your comment on the size of the sketch. I realized my mistake is it a1= 2, a2=4,a3=7, a4=11,a5=16 so an=an-1 + n?
 

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