Should abortion be considered murder?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether abortion should be considered murder, exploring the implications of personhood for fetuses and the role of the federal government in regulating abortion. Participants approach the topic from political, ethical, and personal perspectives, raising various scenarios and conditions under which abortion might be justified or condemned.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that abortion is a personal choice and that the government should not interfere, emphasizing a pro-choice stance.
  • Others contend that if a fetus is considered a person, then abortion equates to murder, suggesting that individuals should be responsible for the consequences of their actions.
  • A participant raises the complexity of the issue, questioning how views on abortion might change in cases of rape or when the mother's life is at risk.
  • Some express a belief that the decision to have an abortion should depend on individual circumstances, indicating a reluctance to be labeled strictly pro-life or pro-choice.
  • There are discussions about the emotional and mental impacts of abortion on women, particularly in cases of rape or severe financial distress.
  • One participant shares a personal experience regarding prenatal testing and the considerations surrounding abortion in the context of potential birth defects.
  • Concerns are raised about the polarization of the pro-choice and pro-life movements, with some suggesting that both sides overlook the complexities of individual situations.
  • Another participant questions the definition of personhood and its implications for legal treatment of fetuses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on whether abortion should be considered murder or how the government should be involved. Multiple competing perspectives remain, particularly regarding the circumstances under which abortion might be justified.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions, such as the definition of personhood and the moral implications of abortion, which remain unresolved. The discussion reflects a diversity of opinions on the ethical and legal dimensions of abortion.

Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

  • Anti-Abortion

    Votes: 7 19.4%
  • Pro-choice

    Votes: 20 55.6%
  • Indifferent

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Depends on the situation

    Votes: 8 22.2%

  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .
  • #211
Reshma said:
Misskitty, thank you for your support:smile:. The reason no one raises this issue is female foeticide campaigners are falsely labelled Pro-feminist even though their only motive here is to save the life of the innocent unborn foetus. Probably the international community is not so well aware of the vast gender differences existing in the societies of India, China etc. The societies here irrespective of whether they are illiterate, under-educated, highly educated, economically backward or forward prefer male children to females. Females here ALWAYS have a secondary status in all orders of life.


i find that sad but true... women are truly prejudiced in asian society ,even before birth.
 
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  • #212
learningphysics said:
I agree with your point about the costs of vasectomies and tubal ligation.

However, I disagree that these options should be avoided just so that in the future, a couple can still have a child. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

What is more important?

That a couple suffer no incoveniences whatsoever: the expense of contraception, the discomfort of tubal ligation or vasectomies, losing the chance of having a child in the future (after vasectomy or tubal ligation), the frustration of no sex (abstinance).

Or that a possibly living human being is not killed?

Abstinance is ideally the best way to go to prevent unplanned pregnancies, however, the reality is, there are many people ruled by their biology. Perhaps you personally may be able to do this, many, and I mean many people cannot or will not choose this avenue. We were designed to have sex, desire sex and enjoy sex (at least most of us). This is why I feel contraception needs to be free, so people have no excuse not to use it and unplanned pregnancies do not happen. We have to deal with the reality of humanity in this situation over the ideals of it.
 
  • #213
look, if you have too much sex, that's your own fault, just because you want to screw everything dosn't mean you can kill living humans. the moral of the story, if you must have sex all the time, wear a condom
 
  • #214
1 said:
look, if you have too much sex, that's your own fault, just because you want to screw everything dosn't mean you can kill living humans. the moral of the story, if you must have sex all the time, wear a condom

Umm, a condom is not 100% protective. Furthur not about having too much sex or promiscuity. Even one sexual encounter is enough for pregnancy to occur, such as with rape victims.
 
  • #215
fifiki said:
Umm, a condom is not 100% protective. Furthur not about having too much sex or promiscuity. Even one sexual encounter is enough for pregnancy to occur, such as with rape victims.

Perfectly true, although the condom odds are much better than the Catholic church would have you believe. And condom for the guy, pill for the gal, produces truly impressive odds in favor of no unwanted aftereffects.
 

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