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Former Vice President Al Gore has not ruled out a second presidential run, although he considers it unlikely. Discussion around Gore highlights skepticism regarding his environmental advocacy, particularly given his lifestyle choices, such as living in a large home and using private jets. Critics argue that his environmentalism appears insincere, viewing it as a political strategy rather than a genuine commitment. The conversation also touches on the broader state of environmental movements in the U.S., with some participants questioning the legitimacy and effectiveness of organizations like Greenpeace and the Sierra Club, while acknowledging that there are local efforts toward sustainability. The dialogue shifts to the political landscape, with concerns about the quality of candidates in U.S. elections and the need for open primaries to allow for better candidate selection. Participants express frustration over the current political system and the perceived lack of viable candidates, suggesting that the focus should be on finding leaders who genuinely prioritize environmental issues.
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Bystander said:
No --- that's what the party hacks peddle to kill the idea of open primaries, plural --- they don't wanta lose their seniority.


No that's what actually happens.

So while you're insinuating I'm a party hack, I'll just let it slip that I'm a registered independent.
 
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There aren't open primaries --- you can't possibly know that that's what happens --- you've asserted that politics is a silly board game being played to see whose party wins and whose party loses. Party hacks are terrified of independents --- to pick up primary votes from independents means that the candidates seeking party nominations actually have to appeal to a broader spectrum of voters.
 
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Bystander said:
There aren't open primaries --- you can't possibly know that that's what happens --- you've asserted that politics is a silly board game being played to see whose party wins and whose party loses. Party hacks are terrified of independents --- to pick up primary votes from independents means that the candidates seeking party nominations actually have to appeal to a broader spectrum of voters.

Um... yes there are open primaries. A number of states have had varies forms, extending from blanket primaries to open party primaries--though in all cases you can't vote in both 'double primaries'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election

In case you've been living in a hole for the last ten years, yeah politics is a silly board game played on party lines. In the US anyway.
 
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From the Wiki link, "Open: Voters may vote in primaries of a party of their choice, the choice to be made at the voting booth. When voters do not pre-register for a party, this is called the pick-a-party primary because the voter can select which party he wishes to vote in on election day. In other open primary states, voters pre-register their party preference but the information is only used by parties for mailing lists and is non-binding.

Now, just how open is this? Let's say it's a presidential election year, and I'm interested in D for this office, R for that, D for another, R for another --- 'tain't that open.

"Blanket:" (Wiki) no longer used --- the only open primary in the list.

Lawton-Lieberman? Connecticut dems shot themselves in the foot with a guaranteed loser, in a "closed primary" --- "open," or, "blanket," the republicans and independents might have saved them the embarassment --- Lieberman is popular enough in Conn. that the republicans have let him have it essentially uncontested --- might run someone for form's sake, but not as a serious challenge.
 

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