Clinton-Obama '08: Possible Historic Ticket?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for a historic political ticket featuring Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama for the 2008 presidential election. Participants explore various aspects of their candidacies, including public perceptions, political strategies, and implications of their respective positions on foreign policy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants speculate on the viability of a Clinton-Obama ticket, noting its historic significance.
  • Concerns are raised about Obama's readiness for the presidency, with references to his past statements on military action in Iran.
  • Others express skepticism about Clinton's appeal overshadowing Obama's potential popularity.
  • A few participants propose alternative ticket combinations, such as Obama with Bill Clinton as Vice President, citing legal theories regarding Bill's eligibility.
  • There are mixed opinions on the effectiveness and influence of the Vice Presidency, with some dismissing it as a largely ceremonial role.
  • Participants discuss the endorsements Obama has received and his rising popularity, while also expressing doubts about other candidates like John McCain.
  • Some express a desire for a more collaborative political approach, suggesting unlikely alliances between candidates from different parties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the potential effectiveness of a Clinton-Obama ticket or the implications of Obama's foreign policy positions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the candidates' readiness and the dynamics of the political landscape.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various statements and endorsements related to the candidates, highlighting the evolving nature of political opinions and the uncertainty surrounding the upcoming election. There are also discussions about the implications of candidates' past actions and statements, which remain open to interpretation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to political analysts, voters considering their options for the 2008 election, and those studying the dynamics of political campaigns and candidate positioning.

  • #151
Astronuc said:
Is it too much to ask for an efficient/functional government rather than a dysfunctional one? :rolleyes:

But you are forgetting the first rule in government spending: Why build [or have] one when you can build two for twice the price?

Source that quote anyone...?
 
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  • #152
Astronuc said:
It has to be either Clinton or Obama - but both in the #1 and #2 slots?

I saw this headline - In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd - and all I could think was "What does that really mean?" :rolleyes:

Here is the part that I really like
There was something improbable about the new guy from Chicago via Honolulu and Jakarta, Indonesia, the one with the Harvard law degree and the job teaching constitutional law...
 
  • #153
With the field narrowing I am getting a sense of how this is going, and much to my surprise, I now think that Hillary is going to be the next President.

I don't think she will pick Obama as VP for reasons that Turbo has already mentioned.
 
  • #154
Ivan Seeking said:
But you are forgetting the first rule in government spending: Why build [or have] one when you can build two for twice the price?

Source that quote anyone...?

I didn't read the book, but i remember that was said by the eccentric billionaire in Contact.
 
  • #155
I think this will be the ticket after all.

Clinton-Obama beats McCain-[tbd]

I don't see how it can go any other way.
 

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