Should I even bother calling this girl?

[waht]

Yah, we want to hear the tale of how you got your arm chopped off, and couldn't pay your medical bill because you spent all your money on gas!

 

[Astronuc]

Read 'Surely You're Joking Mr Feynman' and then call her. Who knows, you might get into some cool adventure. Even if you end up not dating her, something interesting could happen, and you would have a cool story to share.

I'd recommend the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. And take along a towel just in case.

 

[GeorginaS]

Well, this thread certainly took an interesting turn.

BTW, there is an opportunity cost here. I could lose a few hours of my time (which for me is very precious these days), plus the gas required to drive where ever. Plus, if she turns out to be a psycho-@#$%& I could lose body parts or possibly have to pay lawyer fees.

You're just all kinds of fun and adventure, aren't you?




As Astronuc said: bring a towel.

 

[lisab]

You're just all kinds of fun and adventure, aren't you?




As Astronuc said: bring a towel.

And get a tetanus shot.

 

[jackmell]

Emphasis mine.

Anyway, the ideas I discussed were the emotional ones, and I stand by them for anyone of any age. I'll let you deal with the sex questions because, even though you think Topher's father should be discussing this with him, you seem prepared to jump in at any rate.

Yeah, maybe that looks so but I do not wish to take his dad's place and don't wish to preach. I'm just giving my opinion. You guys do. Everything I said I though was reasonable. That's how guys are:

"well, she likes science?"

". . . ugh . . . not really"

"but is she pretty then?"

"yeah, hot"

". . . ugh, ok that's alright then."

There you go: whole universe for a guy in a nutshell.

And sex is a very integral part of a relationship, so integral you could differentiate it, . . . all kinds of ways, all night long even but I digress. And relationships are risky especially for the girl. Jesus, I'm glad I'm a guy cus' I'd be handing out red-flags right and left. Lemme' tell you a story, about a man name Jed, a poor . . . . But really, a female friend of mine, she's seein' this guy she likes and he sends her this photo . . . will this get deleted? It's a true story to illustrate the point. The photo is a stuffed pillow with a stuffed penis coming out of it and he says, "well, I know you like to sleep with your mouth open". Yeah, uh huh, red-flag, deal-breaker. You need to dump that dog I told her. See what I mean. Good luck with them ladies.

 

[GeorginaS]

The photo is a stuffed pillow with a stuffed penis coming out of it and he says, "well, I know you like to sleep with your mouth open". Yeah, uh huh, red-flag, deal-breaker. You need to dump that dog I told her. See what I mean. Good luck with them ladies.

Soooo, you're telling us that you know some slightly odd people, then?

 

[jackmell]

Soooo, you're telling us that you know some slightly odd people, then?

Georgina . . . I'm old and don't mind being so. She's an ex-girlfriend but I'm not interested in her. Poor thing. She's desperate and needs a relationship like most women I tried telling you guys in another post and by the way I was really hurt you guys accused me of trolling in that post and what does that even mean anyway? I'm sure it's bad though. But all the women in here got privs so I didn't say nothin'.

So I saw her a few days ago and asked her, "well, how's it going with that guy you seein'?" In a reserved, embarrassed, slightly hurt manner she uttered some deragotory term for a guy that only wants sex and said, "I'm not seeing him anymore."

I mean if a woman sent me some stuffed vagina and said something crude like, "here's were to put it to keep it warm" I'd be so . . . wait, lemme' think about that for a minute . . . are we talkin' about a pretty woman or what?

And look, women aren't any better:

"well, is he good-looking?"

"ugh . . . not really, kinda' bald."

"well, what does he do?"

"I think he's an engineer at Boeing. He drives a really nice car."

". . . ugh . . . ok then, that's alright."

See, perfect synergy. That's why we like soooo much to be together. :)

 

[GeorginaS]

And look, women aren't any better:

"well, is he good-looking?"

"ugh . . . not really, kinda' bald."

"well, what does he do?"

"I think he's an engineer at Boeing. He drives a really nice car."

". . . ugh . . . ok then, that's alright."

See, perfect synergy. That's why we like soooo much to be together. :)

I love these fictional conversations you write and offer them up as proof of other people's behaviour. "See what I wrote? That proves it." Perfect!

P.S. What's a "priv"?

 

[Topher925]

Georgina . . . I'm old and don't mind being so. She's an ex-girlfriend but I'm not interested in her. Poor thing. She's desperate and needs a relationship like most women I tried telling you guys in another post and by the way I was really hurt you guys accused me of trolling in that post and what does that even mean anyway? I'm sure it's bad though. But all the women in here got privs so I didn't say nothin'.

So I saw her a few days ago and asked her, "well, how's it going with that guy you seein'?" In a reserved, embarrassed, slightly hurt manner she uttered some deragotory term for a guy that only wants sex and said, "I'm not seeing him anymore."

I mean if a woman sent me some stuffed vagina and said something crude like, "here's were to put it to keep it warm" I'd be so . . . wait, lemme' think about that for a minute . . . are we talkin' about a pretty woman or what?

And look, women aren't any better:

"well, is he good-looking?"

"ugh . . . not really, kinda' bald."

"well, what does he do?"

"I think he's an engineer at Boeing. He drives a really nice car."

". . . ugh . . . ok then, that's alright."

See, perfect synergy. That's why we like soooo much to be together. :)

I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.

 

[Upisoft]

Go for her. At least she lives 1 hour away. The worst experience I had was with a girl living next door. Never make that mistake, as you'll have to endure the others that will come after you, see them and even hear them...

 

[jackmell]

I love these fictional conversations you write and offer them up as proof of other people's behaviour. "See what I wrote? That proves it." Perfect!

P.S. What's a "priv"?

You know I'm right with that dialog. And privs, that privileges, moderator privs. And that's ok to me. Don't mind at all.

 

[jackmell]

I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make.

That's kinda' my way of playing Topher even though I believe in what I say and the story about the pillow is real. But it's off-topic to your discussion about calling a girl. Sorry for that. You mentioned you called her. Good for you. That's what it takes: guts. :)

 

[DanP]

Never make that mistake, as you'll have to endure the others that will come after you, see them and even hear them...

Or you could simply grow a pair ?

 

[DanP]

And look, women aren't any better:

"well, is he good-looking?"

"ugh . . . not really, kinda' bald."

"well, what does he do?"

"I think he's an engineer at Boeing. He drives a really nice car."

". . . ugh . . . ok then, that's alright."

See, perfect synergy. That's why we like soooo much to be together. :)

I don't get you.

You basically aint very happy with how we are wired :P You dislike physical attraction as a reason to be with someone, and you equally dislike status and resources as a reason to be with someone.

You say woman aren't better. Better than what ? It's simply what we are. It should be enough for you. No wonder you dislike ppl having sex.

 

[jackmell]

I don't get you.

You basically aint very happy with how we are wired :P You dislike physical attraction as a reason to be with someone, and you equally dislike status and resources as a reason to be with someone.

You say woman aren't better. Better than what ? It's simply what we are. It should be enough for you. No wonder you dislike ppl having sex.

Lemms' see, wrong, wrong, I made a mistake, wrong, wrong:

(1) I'm happy the way we are wired since I'm a biologist at heart. If I wasn't happy the way we are, I could not be a biologist in my opinion.

(2) The dialog I wrote doesn't mean I'm against it but rather I wanted to illustrate how we all are in general (there are exceptions). I'm just as much a dog as other men.

(3) Ok, I should not have said "women aren't better". I should have said something like, "women have their own requirements too".

(4) And you just want to be mean to imply I don't like people having sex. I'm against teens having sex and you know that.

 

[DanP]

I'm just as much a dog as other men.

We are what we are. But I am starting to like you after this disclosure. Still, I wouldn't have liked you in my life when I was 16 :P

(4) And you just want to be mean to imply I don't like people having sex. I'm against teens having sex and you know that.

Yeah, I was mean

 

[jackmell]

We are what we are. But I am starting to like you after this disclosure. Still, I wouldn't have liked you in my life when I was 16 :P

Well I hope you got along with your dad at that time. I always got along with my son. He's 24. I know another family well where I live. He never got along with his son. I know because our family is close and the women talk alot. His son developed bi-polar disorder, had a lot of mental problems. A month ago, he committed suicide. He was 32. Not saying the reason was because of his relationship with his dad, but I suspect maybe things would have been better had they been closer.

 

[DanP]

Well I hope you got along with your dad at that time.

Yeah, my father and I, got along just fine during all my life so far. He is great. Both my parents are MDs and did a decent job educating me about sex. Never tried to stop me from having sex and after I was 18 he allowed me to spend the night with my gf in my parents home in "my" room.

 

[Upisoft]

Or you could simply grow a pair ?

What does that mean?

 

[DanP]

What does that mean?

It's her life. Be a man and move on, even if it hurts you for a while. Obsessing about the men she is dating won't do any good.

 

[Upisoft]

It's her life. Be a man and move on, even if it hurts you for a while. Obsessing about the men she is dating won't do any good.

Yep, it's her life. And it happened more than 20 years ago. It's only a memory about a mistake I've made. It's not an obsession.

 

[GeorginaS]

You know I'm right with that dialog.

Sorry, I don't know either of the people who are speaking in your fictional conversation, so I do not know whether or not you are right or wrong about the things those fictitious people say.

And privs, that privileges, moderator privs. And that's ok to me. Don't mind at all.

Again, please clarify. I'm getting the impression that you seem to think the women on this forum are given more leeway than the men. Do I understand you correctly?

(2) The dialog I wrote doesn't mean I'm against it but rather I wanted to illustrate how we all are in general (there are exceptions). I'm just as much a dog as other men.

"how we all are in general". You realize that statement is a total fallacy, right? Because "we" are not "all" anything "in general" as it pertains to who we're attracted to and who we choose to socialise with.

It seems to me that you -- by your own admission, here, with the "everyone in general" thing -- that women will overlook everything else about a partner in favour of some material wealth. I'll tell you what: I can buy my own very nice car, thank you very much.

I don't know one woman who would engage in your nonsense conversation nor do I know one woman who would say and/or think, "ugh, that guy is disgusting, but he drives an expensive car". Not. One.

Your made-up conversations tell us far more about you than they tell us about the human condition in general.

Back on topic: Topher, did you call her?

 

[DanP]

Yep, it's her life. And it happened more than 20 years ago. It's only a memory about a mistake I've made. It's not an obsession.

It seems that it still affects you ... after 20 years. That phrase about "enduring" the men coming after you, and saying "at least she lives 1h away.." ,you almost succeeded in conveying pain in a medium where is hard to transmit emotions. Let it go. What you did was no mistake.

It would have been a mistake not to take you chances with her.

 

[Upisoft]

It seems that it still affects you ... after 20 years. That phrase about "enduring" the men coming after you, and saying "at least she lives 1h away.." ,you almost succeeded in conveying pain in a medium where is hard to transmit emotions. Let it go. What you did was no mistake.

It would have been a mistake not to take you chances with her.

She was living next door. I knew her very well and I knew what will happen. She never married, I did. In fact I have a kid and I'm waiting for second one. She is still destroying her relationships before it starts smelling like marriage. So, it was mistake to give her a chance. Stupid brain chemistry!

 

[jackmell]

Again, please clarify. I'm getting the impression that you seem to think the women on this forum are given more leeway than the men. Do I understand you correctly?

No. Not at all. You're too serious. I was playing and I'm happy to see some of the females in here as mentors. I actually like seeing them with that status.

"how we all are in general". You realize that statement is a total fallacy, right? Because "we" are not "all" anything "in general" as it pertains to who we're attracted to and who we choose to socialise with.

Ok. You're right. We're not "all the same". I'm speaking in general terms and I believe that dialog is in general an accurate reflection of the average behavior of many men and women although not if you take it to extremes for example, a nice car won't make up for a man that is particularly un-appealing to a woman, but even that, still some women I believe would overlook his appearance for the "security" his success would bring her especially if she's divorced with little prospects and has a child.

I don't know one woman who would engage in your nonsense conversation nor do I know one woman who would say and/or think, "ugh, that guy is disgusting, but he drives an expensive car". Not. One.

I disagree. I think many women would engage in that conversation, but again, not if taken to extremes.

Also Ms. Georgina, in the 400-something posts I've made in here, I have never been rude, inappropriate, or offensive to any women in here. I really have much respect for all of you. However, I have said things in play that might have been taken wrongly. In the words of a buddhist monk about his wife: "in many ways she is the source of my strength" and I believe that very much. :)

 

[DanP]

I'll tell you what: I can buy my own very nice car, thank you very much.

No doubt you can. But an expensive car is a good accessory for a man, a nice peacock tail. It won't work the magic , but it will help many times to stand out from the crowd.

Besides, good cars have their magic in themselves for man. Sleek, fast, strong, a pleasure to have one :P

 

[Evo]

Closing and cleaning up.

 

[Topher925]

Well, it turns out I am full of crap and was completely wrong and all of you were right. She definitely turned out to not be the kind of girl I expected and I ended up having a lot of fun.

 

[Evo]

Yay!

 

[lisab]

Nice, Topher!