Should I Retake Calculus 2 in the Summer?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Quadruple Bypass
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the experience of taking Calculus II, particularly in relation to its perceived difficulty and the implications for future courses such as Calculus III and Differential Equations. Participants share their personal experiences and opinions on whether retaking Calculus II in the summer is advisable, especially for students pursuing engineering and physics majors.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with their Calculus II course, stating they feel they did not learn anything and are considering retaking the course in the summer.
  • Another participant shares a similar experience, passing Calculus II with a low grade but succeeding in Calculus III, suggesting that some concepts may be revisited in future courses.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of mastering topics such as areas, volumes, and series for success in subsequent engineering courses.
  • Some participants argue that a solid understanding of Calculus II is essential for courses like Differential Equations, while others suggest that it may be possible to proceed without it.
  • A participant mentions the challenges faced when entering advanced courses without a strong foundation in Calculus II, emphasizing the need for prerequisite knowledge.
  • There is a mix of opinions regarding the necessity of retaking Calculus II, with some advocating for it while others suggest self-study as an alternative.
  • One participant humorously expresses their frustration with the textbook and instructor, indicating a strong emotional response to their learning experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether retaking Calculus II is necessary. While some strongly advocate for retaking the course, others believe it may be possible to succeed in future courses without a complete mastery of Calculus II concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding of key concepts from Calculus II, such as Power Series and applications to engineering. There is acknowledgment of the importance of these concepts for future coursework, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the best approach to address gaps in knowledge.

Who May Find This Useful

Students in engineering or physics majors who are considering their options after struggling with Calculus II, as well as those interested in the implications of foundational calculus knowledge on advanced courses.

Quadruple Bypass
Messages
120
Reaction score
0
Well this semester I am taking cal 2 and so far, i feel as though i didnt learn anything...no joke. The teacher i am taking it with this semester is teaching from another book so he skipped ahead about 4-5 chapters. I am a mechanical engineering major and i wanted to go as far as i could in math. I also kind of wanted to get another major in psysics, but after this semester, that dream died because of my cal 2 teacher. AWFUL TEACHER! (and book).

SO my question is, should i take cal 2 in the summer and see if i can continue on to cal 3? The person that is teaching cal 3 is my teacher from cal 1 who is a really good teacher. By the way, i have a B in that cal 2 class, but i don't know how i am passing.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Honestly, I felt the same way.

The best way to sum up Calculus II for me is...

I did not learn f^(& all in that class. I passed with a 60%.

I went on to Calculus III and passed with an A at 82% even while working full-time while attending school.

You'll be fine.

You may not fully understand Power Series, and Taylor Series and other things, but these things will come together when they are re-introduced in other courses.

Calculus III can be done with no knowledge of Calculus II.
 
well, the part that i didnt understand was finding the areas, volumes, densities, center of mass of objects, curves, etc... We are just now going into taylor series'.
 
Dear god yes. You better learn your calculus for thermodynamics and fluid mechanics.

well, the part that i didnt understand was finding the areas, volumes, densities, center of mass of objects, curves, etc... We are just now going into taylor series'.

Those are the main things you need to know my friend. RETAKE IT 100%!

If you do not understand this, you will fail statics, your first real engineering course.
 
JasonRox said:
You may not fully understand Power Series, and Taylor Series and other things, but these things will come together when they are re-introduced in other courses.

A word of caution here: That approach to schooling is very annoying to instructors, and it causes us to be cranky when it comes time to start grading papers. Courses have prerequisites for a reason, and I have a near-zero tolerance when students come into my class and don't have the knowledge they are supposed to have. My position is that a student should either remember it or review it, and I know that many other instructors feel the same way.

My answer to Quadruple Bypass is this: If you don't take Calculus II again, then make sure you learn it on your own.

Calculus III can be done with no knowledge of Calculus II.

That's true. But Differential Equations cannot be done without it.
 
Tom Mattson said:
A word of caution here: That approach to schooling is very annoying to instructors, and it causes us to be cranky when it comes time to start grading papers. Courses have prerequisites for a reason, and I have a near-zero tolerance when students come into my class and don't have the knowledge they are supposed to have. My position is that a student should either remember it or review it, and I know that many other instructors feel the same way.

My answer to Quadruple Bypass is this: If you don't take Calculus II again, then make sure you learn it on your own.



That's true. But Differential Equations cannot be done without it.

I learned nothing from Calculus II. Well actually I did. All that area/volume stuff was easy.

I'm sure my professor would have traded me (a C- in Calculus II) over a student with an A in Calculus II any day. I was like one of two who knew what was going on. I would have got 90% in my Calculus III class because I missed some assignments.
 
im only a senior in high school but i have taken calc III, and true, i don't remember anything about taylor or mclauren series in calc III but I am pretty sure calc III will be pretty difficult if you didnt understand all that area and volume and stuff.
 
calc 3 is easier than algebra, calc 2 is the hardest but most essential as far as I'm concerned. It would be foolish to go on w/o a good understanding.
 
TANK youse all, ill probably go retake it then over the summer, or just learn the area volume stuff myself, from a different/BETTER book. so i leave you with this: SCREW YOU "CALCULUS SINGLE VARIABLE HUGHES-HALLETT, GLEASON, MCALLUM, ET AL 4TH EDITION"! BECAUSE OF YOU, YOU BASTARD, I HAVE TO TAKE CAL 2 AGAIN. and screw you teacher who teaches it (whos name i will withhold)
 
  • #10
I side with more ancient minds. Calc II is essential to understanding the concepts that will follow. You need to be able to translate coordinate systems in your sleep to solve differential equations [which is an essential element of mechanical engineering]. I was roadkill when I ran up against diffEQ [as we fondly referred to it back then] for precisely the reasons you have stated. You will be doing yourself an enormous favor if you retake calc II during the summer session [and only calc II]. Mastering those skills will spare you enormous headaches [not to mention free up enough time for trivialities like eating and bathroom breaks] when you scale mount DE.
 
  • #11
Quadruple Bypass said:
TANK youse all, ill probably go retake it then over the summer, or just learn the area volume stuff myself, from a different/BETTER book. so i leave you with this: SCREW YOU "CALCULUS SINGLE VARIABLE HUGHES-HALLETT, GLEASON, MCALLUM, ET AL 4TH EDITION"! BECAUSE OF YOU, YOU BASTARD, I HAVE TO TAKE CAL 2 AGAIN. and screw you teacher who teaches it (whos name i will withhold)

I'm in high school down-under, and I remember those names. I've got the book Calculus: Single and Multivariable (second edition). By Hughes-Hallet, Gleason, McCallum et al. Is that book equivilent to the American Calculus III?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
8K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
911
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K