Should the US drunk-driving threshold be lowered?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proposal to lower the legal blood-alcohol content (BAC) threshold for driving in the U.S. from 0.08 to 0.05, with the aim of reducing alcohol-related traffic fatalities. Participants explore the implications of this change, its effectiveness compared to existing laws, and the intersection of alcohol and marijuana use in driving contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants support lowering the BAC threshold, citing personal experiences and the need for stricter punishments for repeat offenders.
  • Others argue that simply changing the legal limit may not significantly reduce fatalities unless enforcement improves, referencing statistics from the UK.
  • There are concerns about the effectiveness of lowering the limit, with one participant noting that the estimated reduction in deaths is relatively small compared to the total number of fatalities.
  • Some participants raise the issue of combining alcohol and marijuana use, suggesting that legal limits should also consider the effects of marijuana on driving.
  • Statistics regarding marijuana-related driving incidents are discussed, with mixed findings on its impact compared to alcohol.
  • One participant shares personal experiences with alcohol and marijuana, suggesting that individual reactions to these substances vary significantly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of support and skepticism regarding the proposal to lower the BAC threshold. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of such a change, and discussions about marijuana use introduce additional complexity without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of enforcement in any legal changes and note that statistics may vary significantly based on geographic location and other factors. The discussion also touches on the evolving legal landscape regarding marijuana and its potential implications for driving regulations.

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Part of the problem, I think, is that if you take away someone's license in much of the US, a person will be unable to go about much of their daily life required to ,basically, sustain oneself at the most basic level. How can one go shopping for food or how can one get to work in much of the country without driving? Maybe in some parts of the country one can get food delivered to one's home; but I think the costs of doing this become prohibitive over the long run.
 
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  • #32
reenmachine said:
Leaving the country factor aside , I think lowering the alcohol limit is really aiming at the wrong crowd.People that are driving completely drunk on their *** will always eventually get caught and those are the ones who are more likely to be involved in deadly accidents.Lowering the limit will only penalize people that like to have 1-3 beers or a glass of wine or two.These people will be stuck with a criminal record that I don't think they deserve for the most part and their lives could be changed forever because of it.

Hit the people that are getting caught multiples times and the people that are getting caught completely intoxicated and hit them hard.Leave the moderate drinkers alone.Alcohol is too present in society to aim for complete sobriety while driving.

I think it's bordering on infantilization to lower the limit from 0,8 to 0,5.

I agree.
 
  • #33
Evo said:
I don't think the BAC should be lowered, the difference in capabilities between the two levels can't possibly be enough to warrant this.

What needs to be done is to crack down on people that are severely inebriated and/or repeat offenders, not crack down on someone that's had 1-2 drinks and not out of control. the only thing the lower BAC is meant to do is to needlessly fine someone that has been pulled over at a police checkpoint, and not because they were driving dangerously.
Proper enforcement is necessary.

My brother and I once followed a drunk driver for nearly 20 miles on a freeway in Houston. The guy was weaving/drifting across several lanes. We called 911, but there was no response from the Houston police, even after we told them on which freeway we were driving, and several times gave the crossroads. The person finally pulled off the freeway and we gave up waiting for the police.

I also watched a drunk driver swing around a blind curve across the dividing line. Had another car been coming around the curve, it would have been a head on collision. Fortunately there was no oncoming traffic, and the driver subsequently pulled into a quiet neighborhood about two miles later.


My wife used to counsel offenders with multiple drunk driving arrests. They were still on the road. :rolleyes:
 

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