Show Taylor Formula Proves E > T_2_E for 0 to c

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the energy function E(v) exceeds the second-order Taylor polynomial T_2_E for velocities in the interval [0, c). The energy function is given as E(v) = (m*c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), while T_2_E is expressed as mc^2 + ½mv^2.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the Taylor expansion and the appropriate limits for integration. There is uncertainty about the correctness of the expressions used and the implications of the rest term in the Taylor series.

Discussion Status

The conversation reflects a lack of consensus on the validity of the expressions derived and the limits of integration. Some participants are exploring the implications of the derivatives of E and their behavior, while others express concern over the correctness of their approaches.

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Participants are working under a time constraint, with one noting a deadline approaching. There is also mention of the complexity of the roots of E''''(t), which adds to the uncertainty in finding a solution.

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Homework Statement


I have E(v) = (m*c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).

I also have a second-order Taylor-polynomial around v = 0, T_2_E, which is mc^2+½mv^2.

I have to use Taylors formula with restterm to show that E is bigger than T_2_E for all v in the interval [0,c).

The Attempt at a Solution



I have written an expression:

E(v) = T_2_E + 1/n! * int [E'''(t)*(v-t)^2] dt,

where n of course is 2, so it's 1/2 infront of my integral.

I am very uncertain whether my expression is correct or not - do I have to use the limits 0 to c, or 0 to v?

Thank you in advance.
 
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The error will depend upon the specific value of v for which the values are calculated- the integral is from 0 to v.
 
I get that E(v) = T_2_E(v) + ½*[E''(t)*(v-t)^2] + [E'(t)*(v-t)] + [E(t)] where the limits are from 0 to v.

From this, I don't see how E(v) >= T_2_E(v)? The "(v-t)"-part will cancel out for t=v?
 
I mean, doesn't the restterm become negative?

I mean: 0-E''(0)*v + 0-E'(0)*v + E(v)-E(0)
 
Sorry guys, but this paper is due in 5 hours. I've been trying for the past 2-3 hours, but I have no more solutions.

First I thougth of just looking at E'''(t) - so I wouldn't have to integrate. Apparently E''''(t) (4 * ') only has complex roots, so no solutions in R. Then it must mean that E'''(t) (3 * ') is growing, so the integral must be positive or 0.

That just doesn't seem like a valid solution.
 

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