Show that the system has no closed orbits by finding a Lyapunov

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating that a system has no closed orbits by identifying suitable constants a and b for a Lyapunov function. The user is trying to satisfy the conditions ax²(y - x³) + by²(-x - y³) < 0 and ax² + by² > 0 for all (x,y) ≠ (0,0). It is noted that while choosing a, b > 0 seems reasonable, achieving both inequalities simultaneously proves challenging. The analysis reveals that the origin acts as a non-hyperbolic saddle point, with motion away from it, indicating that no periodic orbits can exist. Consequently, since the origin is the only fixed point, the system cannot have any closed orbits.
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Show that the system has no closed orbits by finding a Lyapunov ...

Homework Statement



I'm at the point in the problem where I need constants a and b satisfying

ax2(y-x3) + by2(-x-y3) < 0
and ax2+bx2 > 0

for all (x,y)≠(0,0).

Homework Equations



Just in case you're wondering, this is to satisfy the V(x,y)=ax2+by2 > 0 and ΔV(x,y)•<y-x3, -x-y3> < 0 so I can apply that one theorem to my problem.

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, it seems reasonable to choose a,b>0 to ensure ax2+bx2 > 0, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to make ax2(y-x3) + by2(-x-y3) < 0 simultaneously.
 
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For x=y, this can be simplified to ##(a-b)x^3 - (a+b)x^5 <0 ##, which cannot be true both for positive and negative small x.
 


Jamin2112 said:

Homework Statement



I'm at the point in the problem where I need constants a and b satisfying

ax2(y-x3) + by2(-x-y3) < 0
and ax2+bx2 > 0

for all (x,y)≠(0,0).

You won't be able to do that: on the assumption that V = ax^2 + by^2 and \dot V = ax^2(y - x^3) - by^2(x + y^3) your system is
<br /> \dot x = \textstyle\frac12 x(y - x^3) \\<br /> \dot y = -\textstyle\frac12 y(x + y^3).<br />
The fixed point at the origin is some kind of non-hyperbolic saddle: x = 0 and y = 0 are invariant. On x = 0, \dot y &lt; 0 for y \neq 0 and on y = 0, \dot x &lt; 0 for x \neq 0. Thus there are points arbitrarily close to the origin where motion is unambiguously away from the origin, and at these points \dot V &gt; 0.

However, you now know that no periodic orbit can cross the coordinate axes, so the origin cannot be inside a periodic orbit. Since the origin is the only fixed point (any other fixed point must satisfy x^8 = -1), there can be no periodic orbits (because in a 2D system every periodic orbit must enclose at least one fixed point).
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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