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The discussion focuses on proving the commutative property of the dot product, expressed as (a)(b) = (b)(a). Participants suggest using component notation and the properties of vector addition and multiplication in \mathbb{R} to demonstrate this. The proof involves expanding both sides of the dot product in terms of their components and showing that they yield the same result. Emphasis is placed on the importance of regrouping terms and applying the commutativity of addition. The thread concludes with a reminder to evaluate both sides of the equation to confirm their equality.
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Hello everyone, does anyone know the proof of the dot products communative property (a)(b) = (b)(a) or any websites that show the dot products communative property? or other properties? Thanks! The book only shows the distributed property.
 
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Write a.b and then b.a in terms of the components or as |a||b|cosO. Commutativity of the dot products follows from commutativity of addition (resp. multiplication) in \mathbb{R}.
 
(a1 i + b1 j) \bullet (a2 i + b2 j) =

a1 i \bullet a2 i + a1 i \bullet b2 j + b1 j \bullet a2 i + b1 j \bullet b2 j =

remember i \bullet i = j \bullet j = 1, and i \bullet j = j \bullet i = 0,

then regroup and show something similar to

a * b = b * a

and this can be extended to 3 dimensions
 
well, the dot product is a definition.

as such

<br /> \vec{a}\bullet\vec{b}=<br /> <br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> a_x \\<br /> a_y\\<br /> a_z<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> \bullet<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> b_x \\<br /> b_y\\<br /> b_z<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> =a_xb_x + a_yb_x + a_zb_z<br />

so, what is \vec{b}\bullet\vec{a}?
 
Cool so all I really need to show is this? or doesn't this prove it yet? Thanks for the replies everyone
<br /> \vec{b}\bullet\vec{a}=<br /> <br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> b_x \\<br /> b_y\\<br /> b_z<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> a_x \\<br /> a_y\\<br /> a_z<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> \bullet<br /> <br /> =b_xa_x + b_xa_y + b_za_z<br />
 
You need to show that
\vec{b}\bullet\vec{a} = \vec{a}\bullet\vec{b}

Evaluate each side and compare. Make use of the commutivity of ordinary addition, as quasar987 advised.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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