Show the functions are eigenfunctions of the hamiltonian

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that certain functions are eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics, specifically in the context of the harmonic oscillator. The Hamiltonian is presented in a specific form, and participants are exploring how to manipulate it to show the eigenfunction property.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the Hamiltonian to the eigenstates, using the ladder operators and their relationships with the states. Questions arise about the correct manipulation of the Hamiltonian and the implications of operator actions on the states.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the Hamiltonian's structure and how it interacts with the eigenstates. Some participants suggest alternative ways to express the Hamiltonian and question the assumptions made in the original manipulations. Guidance has been offered regarding the splitting of the Hamiltonian and the potential substitutions that could simplify the problem.

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Given the hamiltonian in this form: H=[itex]\hbar[/itex][itex]\omega[/itex]([itex]b^{+}[/itex]b+.5)

b[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{n}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex]
[itex]b^{+}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{n+1}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n+1}[/itex]

Attempt:

H[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\hbar[/itex][itex]\omega[/itex]([itex]b^{+}[/itex]b+.5)[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]

I get to

H[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\hbar[/itex][itex]\omega[/itex][itex]\sqrt{n}[/itex]([itex]b^{+}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex]+.5[itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex])


But now I'm stuck. Where can I go from here?
 
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It's not correct, you have to split the Hamiltonian as it should be split:

[tex]H = \hbar\omega b^{\dagger}b + \frac{1}{2}\hbar\omega \hat{1}[/tex]

then act on an arbitrary vector.
 
I still end up with a similar problem though...I will have the raising operator acting on [itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex]


H= ℏω[itex]\sqrt{n}[/itex]([itex]b^{+}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex])+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]ℏω[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]
 
Excelent. You need to do a trick on the relation given, namely realize that the <n> can be replaced by other values. Which substitution is useful ?

P.S. Always post your HW questions here, in this forum.
 
Can I say that if [itex]b^{+}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{n+1}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n+1}[/itex] then [itex]b^{+}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{n}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]

which would allow me to write the Hamiltonian as

H=ℏω(n+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex])[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]

and because ℏω(n+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]) is just a number, then

b[itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{n}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n-1}[/itex] and
[itex]b^{+}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{n+1}[/itex][itex]\Psi_{n+1}[/itex]

are eigenfunctions of the Hamiltonian?
 

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