Showing similarity solution satisfies its ODE

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The discussion revolves around a fluids problem involving a partial differential equation (PDE) related to the velocity field v(y,t). The original poster has derived a PDE and is exploring a similarity solution of the form v(y,t) = F(ξ), where ξ = y/√t. The goal is to demonstrate that F(ξ) satisfies a specific ordinary differential equation (ODE) along with given boundary conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to show that F(ξ) satisfies the ODE. They attempted to solve the ODE directly but are unsure of their approach. Some participants suggest substituting F into the original PDE to derive the ODE and boundary conditions for F.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the steps needed to connect the similarity solution to the ODE. Some guidance has been provided regarding the application of derivatives and the interpretation of coefficients in the equation. The conversation indicates a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus has been reached on the specific method to proceed.

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The original poster notes their limited experience with similarity solutions and expresses uncertainty about the derivation process. There is a mention of a reference text that may provide further insights into the methodology.

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Homework Statement



Working with a fluids problem I have derived a pde in [itex]v(y,t)[/itex]. It does not seem to matter but I'll write the PDE I derived, in case:

[itex]\frac{\partial v}{\partial t}=\upsilon \frac{\partial ^2 v}{\partial y^2}[/itex]

Assuming I know that the similarity solution below will work in solving the pde:

[itex]v(y,t)=F(\xi)[/itex] where [itex]\xi = \frac{y}{\sqrt{t}}[/itex]

I need to simply show that [itex]F(\xi)[/itex] satisfies the ODE [itex]\frac{d^2 F}{d \xi^{2} }+\frac{\xi}{2\upsilon }\frac{dF}{d \xi}=0[/itex]

subject to boundary conditions [itex]F(0)=U[/itex]
[itex]F(\infty)=0[/itex]

([itex]\upsilon[/itex] and [itex]U[/itex] are constants related to the original PDE problem & its boundary conditions)


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't quite understand what I am supposed to do here. I tried simply solving the ODE, and I get an answer [itex]F=C\frac{2\upsilon}{x}e^{\frac{-x^2}{4\upsilon}}[/itex]

It was just a quick page of scribbling to see the form of the ODEs solution. It might be slightly wrong, but it does not seem to allow me to show the similarity solution satisfies the ODE.

Please help, with some guidance on what to do. I don't have much experience with similarity solutions, but I have read up on how they are actually derived from PDEs. The above question seems to be simpler than actually deriving it. But I'm a bit lost as to where to start.

Thanks.
 
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I think you just need to plug u expressed via F into the original PDE and the boundary conditions for u and derive the ODE and the boundary conditions for F.
 
K29 said:

Homework Statement



Working with a fluids problem I have derived a pde in [itex]v(y,t)[/itex]. It does not seem to matter but I'll write the PDE I derived, in case:

[itex]\frac{\partial v}{\partial t}=\upsilon \frac{\partial ^2 v}{\partial y^2}[/itex]

Assuming I know that the similarity solution below will work in solving the pde:

[itex]v(y,t)=F(\xi)[/itex] where [itex]\xi = \frac{y}{\sqrt{t}}[/itex]

I need to simply show that [itex]F(\xi)[/itex] satisfies the ODE [itex]\frac{d^2 F}{d \xi^{2} }+\frac{\xi}{2\upsilon }\frac{dF}{d \xi}=0[/itex]

subject to boundary conditions [itex]F(0)=U[/itex]
[itex]F(\infty)=0[/itex]

([itex]\upsilon[/itex] and [itex]U[/itex] are constants related to the original PDE problem & its boundary conditions)


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't quite understand what I am supposed to do here. I tried simply solving the ODE, and I get an answer [itex]F=C\frac{2\upsilon}{x}e^{\frac{-x^2}{4\upsilon}}[/itex]

It was just a quick page of scribbling to see the form of the ODEs solution. It might be slightly wrong, but it does not seem to allow me to show the similarity solution satisfies the ODE.

Please help, with some guidance on what to do. I don't have much experience with similarity solutions, but I have read up on how they are actually derived from PDEs. The above question seems to be simpler than actually deriving it. But I'm a bit lost as to where to start.

Thanks.

That coefficient on the right hand side of the differential equation is the kinematic viscosity, not the velocity.

When you apply this methodology, the partial derivative of v with respect to y is the ordinary derivative of F with respect to [itex]\xi[/itex] times the partial derivative of [itex]\xi[/itex] with respect to y. The partial derivative of v with respect to t is the ordinary derivative of F with respect to [itex]\xi[/itex] times the partial derivative of [itex]\xi[/itex] with respect to t. I'm sure you can figure out how to extend this further. The whole problem is worked out in detail in Transport Phenomena by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot.
 
Thanks for the help
 

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