Showing that spectrum of operator is not compact

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the operator T defined on the space of continuous functions C[0, π], specifically focusing on the second derivative operator and its spectrum. The original poster is tasked with demonstrating that the spectrum of this operator is not compact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use specific functions and their eigenvalues to argue about the compactness of the spectrum. Some participants question the need for a general case and whether the example provided is sufficient to support the claim.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of boundedness and compactness in relation to the operator T. There is acknowledgment that the example of eigenvalues being unbounded contributes to the argument against compactness, but further clarification on generality is sought.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the specific conditions of the operator's domain and the implications of the eigenvalue behavior. There is a recognition of the distinction between properties of the operator and those of individual functions within the domain.

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Homework Statement



Let [tex]X=C[0,\pi][/tex].
Define [tex]T:\mathcal{D}(T) \to X[/tex], Tx = x" where
[tex]\mathcal{D}(T) = \{ x \in X | x(0)=x(\pi)=0 \}[/tex].

Show that [tex]\sigma(T)[/tex] is not compact.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Well, functions sin(Ax) and sin(-Ax), for A=0,1,2,... are in the domain, and eigenvalues are all integers, which are not bounded, aka. not compact. But I am not sure how to show this in general case. Any help in the right direction is appreciated.
 
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Yikes, the preview looked fine, but not sure what happened with that LaTeX code there. The operator is second derivative, Tx=x", and the domain is all functions in X so that x(0)=x(Pi)=0.
 
What do you mean 'general case'? I think you've shown that the second derivative operator T is unbounded, so it can't be compact. What else is there to show?
 
Well, I guess I came up with an example of a function that's in the domain, and whose set of eigenvalues are not bounded, and eigenvalues are in the spectrum. I just wasn't really sure if that is enough to show that it's true for ALL functions in the domain.

Also, I noticed I made a mistake. If f(x)=sin(Ax), then [tex]f''(x)=-A^2sin(Ax)[/tex], so for any integer A, [tex]-A^2[/tex] is an eigenvalue, which is still an unbounded set.
 
That what is true for ALL functions in the domain? Compactness or boundedness are properties of the operator T, not of specific functions. Your example shows T is not a bounded operator, I think it's just fine.
 
Point taken. Thanks for the input :)
 

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