Silicon not heating with induction heater?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of melting polycrystalline silicon using an inductive heater, specifically in the context of the Czochralski process. Participants explore the effectiveness of the heater's frequency and the material properties of silicon that may influence heating.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that their inductive heater is not melting or heating the silicon workpiece, despite it being effective with other conductive materials.
  • Another participant suggests that the frequency of the heater, set at 90KHz, is too low for effective heating of silicon, proposing that at least 100 MHz is necessary for high-resistance substrates like silicon.
  • A third participant acknowledges the need for higher frequency due to the electrical resistivity of silicon, indicating a mathematical error in their previous understanding of silicon's resistivity when heated.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate frequency for heating silicon, with some agreeing that higher frequencies are necessary, while the specific requirements and implications remain unresolved.

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There are limitations regarding the specific frequency requirements for effective heating of silicon, as well as the effects of silicon's resistivity on the heating process. The discussion does not resolve these technical details.

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I’m using an inductive heater to try to melt some 99.85% polycrystalline silicon, as would occur in the Czochralski process, but the silicon workpiece is not melting let alone even getting hot. The silicon workpiece is about the size of a playing dice. It becomes conductive at 200 F and becomes fully conductive at 230 F. Even after preheating the workpiece well above the point at which it becomes conductive, the inductive heater still doesn’t “take over” to raise the temperature. The inductive heater works fine with other conductive materials such as iron, aluminum, and copper and heats them quite effectively. Heating silicon inductively is a well established process but due to confidentiality I have not come across any details regarding the frequency needed.
- The frequency of the heater I am using is 90KHz and was confirmed with an oscilloscope.
 
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Patrick Underwood said:
I’m using an inductive heater to try to melt some 99.85% polycrystalline silicon, as would occur in the Czochralski process, but the silicon workpiece is not melting let alone even getting hot. The silicon workpiece is about the size of a playing dice. It becomes conductive at 200 F and becomes fully conductive at 230 F. Even after preheating the workpiece well above the point at which it becomes conductive, the inductive heater still doesn’t “take over” to raise the temperature. The inductive heater works fine with other conductive materials such as iron, aluminum, and copper and heats them quite effectively. Heating silicon inductively is a well established process but due to confidentiality I have not come across any details regarding the frequency needed.
- The frequency of the heater I am using is 90KHz and was confirmed with an oscilloscope.
Your heater frequency is a way too low for silicon. You need at least 100 MHz for effective heating of high-resistance substrates like silicon. Also, powdering silicon actually would make heating even less effective.
 
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Thank you trurle for the reply.
See that's what I was also thinking... When you say high-resistance substrates I assume you mean electrical resistivity. I do see now mathematically that if the resistivity is higher it would require a higher frequency. Yeah...so we have a mathematical error. The resistivity of intrinsic silicon only gets to about .006 ohm cm when heated not 2 * 10^-6.
 
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