Similarity of Matrices: Finding the Invertible Matrix P

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The discussion revolves around the similarity of two matrices, A and B, defined as A=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc} 1 & 1 \\ -1 & 4 \end{array} \right)\] and B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc} 2 & 1 \\ 1 & 3 \end{array} \right)\]. Participants are tasked with showing that these matrices are similar by finding an invertible matrix P such that B = PAP-1.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the characteristic equations of both matrices, noting they are the same, and explore the implications for similarity. There is an attempt to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors, with some questioning whether finding P is necessary. Others suggest that finding eigenvectors could lead to determining P.

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Several participants have made progress in calculating eigenvalues and eigenvectors, and there is a shared understanding that both matrices are diagonalizable. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the matrices and the transformation matrix P, though there is still exploration of how to explicitly find P.

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Participants express uncertainty about the methods covered in their course related to finding the transformation matrix P, indicating a potential gap in their current understanding of the topic.

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Homework Statement



Show that the Matrices A and B are similar

[itex]A=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1 & 1 \\<br /> -1 & 4 \end{array} \right)\] B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 2 & 1 \\<br /> 1 & 3 \end{array} \right)\][/itex]



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B=PAP-1

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I know they have the same trace of 5

I have found the charecteristic equations of both matrices which are the same

[itex]\lambda^2-5\lambda+5[/itex]

So I solve for zero to get the eigenvalues.

[itex]\lambda^2-5\lambda+5=0[/itex] so the eigenvalues are

[itex]\lambda_1=\frac{5+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] and [itex]\lambda_2=\frac{5-\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex]

I'm having trouble finding the invertable Matrix P

I know I have to use the matrix
[itex] A=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1-\lambda & 1 \\<br /> -1 & 4-\lambda \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

and solve for zero. then I believe I use the diagonals of matrix B to substitute for [itex]\lambda[/itex] eg 2 and 3

But not sure how to get there. Any help greatly appreciated
 
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Hi boneill3! :smile:

(have a lambda: λ and a square-root: √ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
boneill3 said:
Show that the Matrices A and B are similar

[itex]A=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1 & 1 \\<br /> -1 & 4 \end{array} \right)\] B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 2 & 1 \\<br /> 1 & 3 \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

I have found the charecteristic equations of both matrices which are the same

[itex]\lambda^2-5\lambda+5[/itex]

So I solve for zero to get the eigenvalues.

[itex]\lambda^2-5\lambda+5=0[/itex] so the eigenvalues are

[itex]\lambda_1=\frac{5+\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex] and [itex]\lambda_2=\frac{5-\sqrt{5}}{2}[/itex]

I'm having trouble finding the invertable Matrix P …

Do you need to find P, or even to find the eigenvalues?

If the characteristic equations are the same, don't the matrices have to be similar?

To find P, you could find the eigenvectors of each matrix first: then it's the matrix which transforms from one pair (as a basis) to the other pair.
 
Hi Guy's
I'm not sure if I have to find P but I would like to know how to do it.
So I've found the eigenvectors of the two Matrices.

The eigenvectors for
[itex]A=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & 1 \\-\frac{1}{2}(\sqrt{5}-3) & \frac{1}{2}(\sqrt{5}+3) \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

[itex]B=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & 1 \\-\frac{1}{2}(\sqrt{5}-1) & \frac{1}{2}(\sqrt{5}+1) \end{array} \right)\][/itex]


I calculated D= P-1AP and D= P-1BP and both Matrices are diagonable.

How do you find the Matrix which transforms one pair to the other?

hence finding B=PAP-1

I have not seen this yet in my course
thanks
 
boneill3 said:
I calculated D= P-1AP and D= P-1BP and both Matrices are diagonable.

Do you mean you calculated Q and R such that D= Q-1AQ and D= R-1BR with D diagonal?

Then B = RDR-1 = RQ-1AQR-1 = (QR-1)-1A(QR-1) :wink:
 
Thanks Tiny_Tim, Your a Ledgend!

I found the change of basis Matrix P to be

[itex]P=\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & 1 \\1 & 0 \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

B = PAP-1

Using form what you said that P = QR-1

It makes heaps more sense to me know. Yippieeeee!
 

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