Simple conservation of energy problem

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The discussion revolves around a conservation of energy problem involving a projectile's height at a specific velocity. The original poster seeks to determine the height \( h \) at which a projectile has a velocity of \( 0.5v \), using only \( v \) and \( g \) in the answer.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle but questions the derivation of the correct height, noting a discrepancy in their calculations. Some participants suggest reevaluating the setup of the conservation of energy equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on correctly setting up the conservation of energy equation. There is recognition of a misunderstanding regarding the initial conditions of the problem, leading to a productive exploration of the concepts involved.

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The original poster initially misinterpreted the problem, thinking they needed to find the height for an initial velocity of \( 0.5v \) rather than for an initial velocity of \( v \) when the projectile reaches \( 0.5v \).

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Homework Statement


All I need to do is figure out at what height h above the ground does a projectile have .5v using only v and g in the answer.


Homework Equations


Conservation of energy: KEi=GPEf
.5mv2=mgh


The Attempt at a Solution


so I went ahead and just plugged in .5v or v and solved for h so...
.5(.5v)2=gh
.5(.25v2)=gh
.125v2=gh
h=v2/8g

however, the correct answer is 3v2/8g

so I guess all I need to know is where the 3 came from. I don't see any algebraic errors and I frankly don't have any other ideas
Any help is greatly appreciated,
Thanks!
 
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Hi ehilge! Welcome to PF! :smile:
ehilge said:
.5(.5v)2=gh

.5(v)2=gh

Too clever by half! :biggrin: :wink:
 
You need to set up the conservation of energy equation properly. What's the total energy when the projectile just leaves the ground? What's the total energy when its speed = 0.5v and its height = h? Set those equal.

ehilge said:

Homework Equations


Conservation of energy: KEi=GPEf
.5mv2=mgh
In general, this is not true. It's only true if all the KE is transformed into PE.
 
ok, so I got the correct answer when I set .5mv2=.5m(.5v)2+mgh. I think I actually just read my own question wrong. I thought I was trying to find the height if the initial velocity is .5v but it looks like I needed to find what the height is when the velocity is .5v but the intitial is still v. Oh well, I geuss I better pay more attention next time. Thanks for you help!
 

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