Simple Distance to Time Equation

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The discussion revolves around the kinematic equation s = ut + 0.5at^2, focusing on how to solve for time (t) when initial velocity (u) is not zero. Participants explore the implications of this equation in the context of distance and acceleration, particularly in a quarter-mile scenario.

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  • Participants share different methods to manipulate the kinematic equation to isolate time. Some express difficulty with quadratic equations, while others provide specific examples and calculations to illustrate their reasoning.

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Several participants have offered various approaches to the problem, including algebraic manipulations and specific numerical examples. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of initial velocity and acceleration on the time calculation, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Some participants mention the need to ensure consistent units when calculating time and distance, and there are references to specific values for acceleration and initial velocity in the context of a quarter-mile run.

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I know that s = ut + 0.5at^2 is a simple equation to find distance.
Assuming that initial velocity does not equal zero, how do you find what time equals since my knowledge of quadratics does not seem to be helping.
 
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do you have any specific question or i should make one up?
 
physicswonder said:
I know that s = ut + 0.5at^2 is a simple equation to find distance.
Assuming that initial velocity does not equal zero, how do you find what time equals since my knowledge of quadratics does not seem to be helping.

For some reason, maybe because it was originally in German, we use S=(A*T^2)/2 which is just a little bit different way of writing your equation. So divide by A gives you S/A=T^2/2
Multiply both sides by 2 gives 2S/A=T^2, so (2S/A)^0.5=T.

So in the quarter mile(if you can stomach using feet) it would be 1320 times 2=2640, assume one g, 32 F/S/S, 2640/32=82.5, square root of that is 9.083 seconds to do the quarter mile assuming one g of constant acceleration. So if someone does 9 seconds in the quarter mile, he is averaging 1 g.

And using V=AT, 32 F/S/S * 9.083= 290 Feet per second at the end or times 1.4666 = about 198 miles per hour.

As for the non-zero velocity, make sure it is in the same units and just add the average velocity of acceleration, 1320/9.083=145 feet per second average, plus say, 88 f/s (starting the run at 60 mph) and adding them, average velocity is 233 f/s so 1320/233=~5.6 seconds. So add the average velocities and divide by the distance to give the time with some initial velocity.
 
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physicswonder said:
I know that s = ut + 0.5at^2 is a simple equation to find distance.
Assuming that initial velocity does not equal zero, how do you find what time equals since my knowledge of quadratics does not seem to be helping.

Lets assume an example: u= -1, s=1.5, a=1

[itex]1.5 = -t + \frac{1}{2}t^2[/itex]

[itex]3 = -2t + t^2[/itex]

[itex]t^2 - 2t - 3 = 0[/itex]

now you have to split the -2t into 2 parts such that their sum is -2t (obvious) and their product is product of the rest 2 terms i.e. (t2)*(-3) = -3t2

i think its -3t,t ... -3t+t = -2t and -3t*t= -3t2

[itex]t^2 - 3t + t - 3 = 0[/itex]

[itex]t(t - 3) + (t - 3) = 0[/itex]

[itex](t - 3)*(t + 1) = 0[/itex]

[itex](t - 3) = 0 or (t + 1) = 0[/itex]

[itex]t = 3 and t = -1[/itex]

but t=-1 makes no sense so t=3 is answer
 
Here is a quadratic formula for non-zero starting velocity:

V=initial velocity
A=acceleration
S=distance
T=time to travel the given distance
(-2V+(4V^2+8AS)^1/2)/2A=T

So given units in feet, a car with a running start going 88 feet per second(60 mph) entering the acceleration run of a quarter mile and accelerating at exactly one g (32 f/s/s) takes 6.74 seconds. You can work out the numbers I assume. My earlier answer of averaging velocity was wrong.
 

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