Simple explanation for cross section ratio

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The discussion centers on the cross-section ratio of the reactions $$\sigma(pp \to \pi^+d)$$ and $$\sigma(np\to\pi^0d$$, concluding that the ratio equals 2 due to isospin symmetry. The participants emphasize that while a mathematical derivation exists, a qualitative understanding can be achieved through symmetry arguments. The use of SU(2) group representations is essential for comprehending the underlying physics without extensive calculations. The final ratio is derived from the amplitudes of the respective scattering processes.

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Hello! Is there any simple (i.e. using some physics arguments, without actually doing the math) explanation for why $$\sigma(pp \to \pi^+d)/\sigma(np\to\pi^0d)=2$$ where d is the deuteron? Thank you!
 
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Well, what do you mean with "no math" there is a way to deduce using isospin symmetry and little assumptions. If you compare the amount of math of this method compared with the actual computation of a cross-section, this is almost without maths, but you still need some mathematical knowledge of the representations of SU(2) group. Is that what you want?
 
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Gaussian97 said:
Well, what do you mean with "no math" there is a way to deduce using isospin symmetry and little assumptions. If you compare the amount of math of this method compared with the actual computation of a cross-section, this is almost without maths, but you still need some mathematical knowledge of the representations of SU(2) group. Is that what you want?
Thank you! yes, i would like something like that, based on some symmetries, rather than actually blindly calculating some feynman diagrams.
 
Well, then the idea is:
Because the two scatterings are almost identical (they only differ in the exchange of ##p\leftrightarrow n## and ##\pi^0 \leftrightarrow \pi^+##), then we expect that the cross-sections will be like
$$\sigma(pp\rightarrow \pi^+ d) = \sigma_0 |\mathscr{M_{pp}}|^2$$
$$\sigma(pn\rightarrow \pi^0 d) = \sigma_0 |\mathscr{M_{pn}}|^2$$
with ##\sigma_0## the same constant for both processes. Also, the amplitude will be ##\mathscr{M}_{i\rightarrow f}= \left<f\right|T\left|i\right>##. Again, if isospin is a symmetry we expect
$$\mathscr{M}_{pp\rightarrow \pi^+ d} = \mathscr{M}_0 \left<\pi^+ d\right.\left|pp\right>$$
$$\mathscr{M}_{pn\rightarrow \pi^0 d} = \mathscr{M}_0 \left<\pi^0 d\right.\left|pn\right>$$
So, the ratio between the two cross-sections will be simply
$$\frac{\sigma(pp\rightarrow \pi^+ d)}{\sigma(pn\rightarrow \pi^0 d)}=\left|\frac{\left<\pi^+ d\right.\left|pp\right>}{\left<\pi^0 d\right.\left|pn\right>}\right|^2$$.

Then, using that
$$\left|p\right>=\left|I=\frac{1}{2}, I_3 =\frac{1}{2} \right>$$
$$\left|n\right>=\left|I=\frac{1}{2}, I_3 =-\frac{1}{2} \right>$$
$$\left|\pi^+\right>=\left|I=1, I_3 =1 \right>$$
$$\left|\pi^0\right>=\left|I=1, I_3 =0 \right>$$
$$\left|d\right>=\left|I=0, I_3 =0 \right>$$
I let you compute the ##2##
 
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