Simple Gear Train: Pitch Circle Diameter and Typo in Homework

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of pitch circle diameters in a gear train context, specifically addressing potential errors in a homework assignment related to the formulas used. Participants explore the implications of these calculations and the reliability of provided lecture notes.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the pitch circle diameter using the formula \(D = \frac{pN}{\pi}\) and questions whether a discrepancy in values indicates a typo in the homework.
  • Another participant suggests that the homework may have used a different approximation for pi, possibly 3.142, leading to different results.
  • Several participants agree that the equation presented in the homework appears to be incorrect, reiterating the correct formula and calculations.
  • A participant expresses doubt about the reliability of their professor's lecture notes based on the identified errors.
  • Discussion shifts to the gear ratio, with one participant stating that gear ratios typically should not exceed 10, while another notes that single-stage gears can have higher ratios but may not be optimal.
  • It is mentioned that rack and pinion systems can theoretically achieve infinite ratios, and specific examples of gear applications are provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is a potential error in the homework equations, but there is no consensus on the implications of gear ratios, with differing opinions on practical limits and applications.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on the value of pi used, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of gear ratios and their practical applications.

EastWindBreaks
Messages
128
Reaction score
3

Homework Statement


upload_2017-12-18_6-8-28.png


Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


if you do 38*25/pi , you would get 302.394 for the exact pitch circle diameter, similarly, exact d2 should be 907.183 mm, is it a typo? or did I miss something?
 

Attachments

  • upload_2017-12-18_6-8-28.png
    upload_2017-12-18_6-8-28.png
    42.2 KB · Views: 1,106
Physics news on Phys.org
The used a slightly different value for pi. Probably 3.142
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: EastWindBreaks
CWatters said:
The used a slightly different value for pi. Probably 3.142
the new exact d1 should be T1*Pc/pi, correct? but it has only Pc/T1
 
Last edited:
You can have a single stage with a bigger ratio but I think there are frequently better options, eg a multi stage might be smaller or have less wear. I am not a mechanical engineer but I think single stage spur gears for power transmission are normally limited to somewhere under 10. Some sites say under 7. The issue is with the small gear, where I think the practical minimum number of teeth is around 20 teeth.

Technically a rack and pinion has an infinite ratio.

Some tower cranes have a small pinion turning a very large ring gear under the cab and I think the ratio there might be more than 20. That's in addition to a sealed gearbox between the electric motor and pinion.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
8K
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
23K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
10
Views
5K
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K