Simple harmonic motion - damping introduced

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to simple harmonic motion with the introduction of damping. Participants are exploring the implications of the damping coefficient and its effects on oscillation amplitude and period.

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  • Participants discuss the damping coefficient and its representation in equations. There are attempts to solve for time when the amplitude halves, with some questioning the relevance of certain parameters. Others express uncertainty about the equations and seek clarification on the relationship between amplitude and time.

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Several participants have provided guidance on solving the equation for time, with one confirming the correctness of an equation for position. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with some participants offering corrections and suggestions for further steps.

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There is mention of assumptions regarding the frequency of oscillation and the impact of small damping on the equations used. Some participants note potential confusion regarding terminology and the parameters involved in the equations.

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I can solve everything but d). Please help
 

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The damping coefficient is ## b ## in your formula. Do you know how to solve ## e^{-\frac{b}{2m}t}=\frac{1}{2} ## for ## t ## ? . ## \\ ## Edit: A google of the topic calls ## \gamma=\frac{b}{2m} ## the damping coefficient, but it is really a choice of terminology. By the units they give you, they are giving you ## b ##.
 
Charles Link said:
The damping coefficient is ## b ## in your formula. Do you know how to solve ## e^{-\frac{b}{2m}t}=\frac{1}{2} ## for ## t ## ? .
I don't know how much is x(t)
 
Jozefina Gramatikova said:
I don't know how much is x(t)
The sinusoidal oscillation is assumed to happen at a much higher frequency with small damping, so that the period of the oscillation ## T ## is quite short, and you don't need to consider the term ## \cos(\omega t ) ##. The amplitude is ## A e^{- \frac{b}{2m} t} ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
The sinusoidal oscillation is assumed to happen at a much higher frequency with small damping, so that the period of the oscillation ## T ## is quite short, and you don't need to consider the term ## \cos(\omega t ) ##. The amplitude is ## A e^{- \frac{b}{2m} t} ##.
Ok, thank you and what about x(t)
 
Your (first equation) that you posted in part 2 of the OP for ## x(t) ## is correct. (You didn't list an equation for ## \omega' ## though). And your second equation, which I think is a damping ratio number is really not of prime interest here. It would help if you would state what the parameter is. I had to go googling for the second equation you posted, to see if it was correct.## \\ ## When they say, how long does it take for the amplitude to "halve" that means ## A e^{-\frac{b}{2m} t}=\frac{1}{2} Ae^{-\frac{b}{2m} 0} ##, so that ## e^{-\frac{b}{2m} t}=\frac{1}{2} ##.
 
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Oh, I am sorry I didn't think an equation for w' would be helpful here. Thank you very much for your help!
 
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Now, the next step is take the natural log of both sides of this last equation in order to solve for ## t ##. (It may be worthwhile for me to mention that, because I'm not sure how advanced you may be).
 
Charles Link said:
Now, the next step is take the natural log of both sides of this last equation in order to solve for ## t ##. (It may be worthwhile for me to mention that, because I'm not sure how advanced you may be).
Yeah, I know how to proceed from here ## A e^{-\frac{b}{2m} t}=\frac{1}{2} Ae^{-\frac{b}{2m} 0} ##,. I got t=3.036s. I hope that this is correct
 
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Suggest you use ## \ln{2}=.693 ## and you get ## t=3.05 ## seconds. (I see you must have used ## \ln{2}=.690 ##).
 
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That's true. I did plug 0.69. Thank you!
 
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