Simple harmonic motion period with velocity defined

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to simple harmonic motion (SHM), specifically focusing on determining the period of motion given the speed at a certain displacement from equilibrium. The original poster attempts to derive the period using a relationship involving force and displacement, but is uncertain about the appearance of the amplitude squared in the correct answer.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore relationships between displacement and velocity in SHM, suggesting substitutions and integrative approaches. There is a focus on deriving expressions that connect these variables, with some participants questioning the original poster's understanding of the equations involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to relate displacement and velocity through trigonometric identities and energy conservation principles. Multiple approaches are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted language barrier affecting communication, as one participant expresses difficulty in understanding the terminology used in the discussion. Additionally, the original poster's attempt at a solution does not align with the expected form, raising questions about the assumptions made in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A mass m is sliding back and forth in a simple harmonic motion (SHM) with an amplitude A on a horizontal frictionless surface. At a point a distance L away from equilibrium, the speed of the plate is vL (vL is larger than zero).

Homework Equations


What is the period of the SHM?

The Attempt at a Solution


a_x=-kx/m -> vX= (-kx^2)/(2m)
k = (-vX*2m)/(x^2)
T=2π*√(m/k)=2π*√(m/((-vX*2m)/(x^2))
T=2π√((-x^2)/vX))
Filling in point at distance L from equilibrium, I get:

T=2π√((-L^2)/vL))

The correct answer is T=2π√((A^2-L^2)/vL)), but I cannot imagine where the A^2 comes from.

Any help is appreciated!
 
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For simple harmonic motion,
x=Asin(wt+Φ)
and v=dx/dt = Awcos(wt+Φ)

Can you try relating x and v somehow?
 
erisedk said:
For simple harmonic motion,
x=Asin(wt+Φ)
and v=dx/dt = Awcos(wt+Φ)

Can you try relating x and v somehow?

Yes, x=∫vdt, or is that not what you meant with relating x and v?
 
Nope, I meant try substituting the value of (wt+Φ) from the first equation into the second one.
 
erisedk said:
Nope, I meant try substituting the value of (wt+Φ) from the first equation into the second one.
I am terribly sorry, but my native language is not English and I do not know what you mean with the value of (wt+Φ). I do not have the frequency in the data?
 
(wt+Φ) = arcsin(x/A)
What is cos(wt+Φ)?
After figuring out cos(wt+Φ), substitute it into v=Awcos(wt+Φ). You'll get an expression that relates x and v.
 
Ik think you have to apply conservation of energy, it will result in:
1/2*k*L^2 + 1/2*m*v^2=1/2*k*A^2
k =(m*v^2)/(A^2 -L^2)
 

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