Simple Harmonic Motion vibration Question

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to simple harmonic motion involving a mass-spring system. The original poster presents a scenario where a mass is suspended from a spring, and various parameters such as frequency, maximum velocity, and maximum acceleration are to be calculated based on the mass and spring constant provided.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of angular frequency and its relation to frequency and velocity. There is discussion about the phase constant and its significance in determining the velocity function. Some participants question the validity of using sine versus cosine functions for displacement and velocity. Others seek clarification on how to calculate maximum values for velocity and acceleration, and the implications of changing amplitude.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on calculating maximum velocity and acceleration, indicating that maximum velocity occurs at equilibrium and is given by specific formulas. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between displacement and acceleration, with some participants verifying calculations and discussing graphing acceleration against displacement. However, there is no explicit consensus on all values presented, and some participants express confusion regarding the calculations.

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Participants note the need to consider the phase constant in their calculations and the implications of amplitude changes on maximum velocity and acceleration. There is also mention of homework constraints and the requirement to plot a graph of acceleration against displacement, which some participants find challenging.

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Homework Statement


A mass of 0.3kg is suspended from a spring of stiffness 200Nm-1. If the mass is displaced by 10mm from its equilibrium position and released, for resulting vibration, calculate:
a) the frequency of vibration
b) the maximum velocity of the mass during the vibration
c) the maximum acceleration of the mass during the vibration



Homework Equations


Angular frequency= √((Spring constant)/mass)
Frequency= (Angular frequency)/(2 × π)
Velocity: v(t) = -ωA sin(ωt + φ)
Acceleration: a(t) = -ω 2 A cos(ωt + φ)

Displacement = amplitude x sin(angular frequency x time)
T=1/f

The Attempt at a Solution


a) Angular frequency= √((Spring constant)/mass)
ω_n= √(k/m)
ω_n= √(200/0.3)
ω_(n )=25.8199

Frequency= (Angular frequency)/(2 × π)
F= ω_n/2π
F= 25.8199/2π
F=4.11Hz

b) Velocity= -angular frequency ×amplitude ×sin⁡〖(angular frequency ×time + phase constant〗
v(t)= -ωA sin⁡(ωt+φ)
angular frequency=25.8199
amplitude=0.01m
phase constant= ?
time = 0.243


My physics is pretty poor I'm afraid, and i'd be grateful for any help possible. I've become stuck trying to calculate the phase constant. I've read that through using x = A*sin(ωt + φ), and setting t to 0, I can calculate what the phase constant should be. I seem to keep getting 0 as my result here however.Any help on how the phase constant should be calculated would be grately appreciated. Thanks.
 
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The "phase constant" is pretty much whatever you want to make it. Specifically, it depends upon what you want to assign as t= 0. However, you first assert that the velocity is given by -\omega sin(\omega t+ \phi) but then you want x= A sin(\omega t+ \phi). Those can't both be true! The velocity is the derivative of position so if the velocity is given by a sine then x must be a cosine. x(t)= A cos(\omega t+ \phi).

If you choose to make t= 0 at the beginning of the motion, then you must have Acos(\omega(0)+ \phi)= Acos(\phi)= A, the maximum motion. Yes, that reduces to cos(\phi)= 1 so \phi= 0. What's wrong with that?
 
Thanks for your reply. So I have:

v(t)= -ωA sin⁡(ωt+φ)
angular frequency=25.8199
amplitude=0.01m
time= 1/f=0.2433
phase constant= 0
v(t)= -25.8199 ×0.01 sin⁡(25.8199 × 0.2433+0)
v(t)= -0.258199 sin⁡(6.2817627+0)
v(t)= -0.02825m/s

Is there now further steps involved in calculating the maximum velocity?
 
Any body able to offer any more help please.

Where I'm up to:

v(t)= -ωA sin⁡(ωt+φ)
angular frequency=25.8199
amplitude=0.01m
time= 1/f=0.2433
phase constant= 0
v(t)= -25.8199 ×0.01 sin⁡(25.8199 × 0.2433+0)
v(t)= -0.258199 sin⁡(6.2817627+0)
v(t)= -0.02825ms^(-1)

Now i seem to have confused myself and could really do with some help to point me in the right direction.

I need to calculate what the maximum velocity would be. I've read that Maximum and minimum values of any sine and cosine function are +1 and -1. So, would the correct equation be v(t)= -0.258199 sin⁡(1)? Furthermore I've read velocity is at a maximum when displacement is zero. By my understanding this would be when the amplitude is at 0.00. In which case should the equation be v(t)= -25.8199 ×0.00 sin⁡(25.8199 × 0.2433+0).
Both ways seem to give a velocity of 0.00ms?
And is there any other factors that then need adjusting if amplitude is changed? doesn't seem to be, but thought i'd check.

If anybody is able to offer their help that would be great. Thanks.
 
Rikiki,

Maximum Velocity is given using

vmax = Aωcos(ωt+∅)

Maximum Acceleration is given using

amax = Aω2sin(ωt+∅)

Other area of this question which I'm struggling with is " (iv) the mass required to produce double the maximum velocity calculated, using the same spring and initial deflection.

Hope this helps a little
 
The question asks for max velocity and max acceleration.
Without worrying about phase angle the max velocity occurs as the object passes through the equilibrium position and is given by
v = ωA (A = amplitude)
SWimilarly max acceleration occurs at the max displacement
a = ω^2. A
 
im having trouble with;

Plot a graph of acceleration against displacement (x) (for values of x
from x = –10 mm to x = +10 mm)
 
So far I've worked out
f=4.11Hz
vmax=0.26ms-1
amax=0.73ms-2
mass to cause double velocity=0.0755kg

maybe someone can verify these answers.

I'm stumped on this graph though
 
ok forget that, those answers don't work out
f=4.11hz
vmax=0.257ms-1 using either equation above
amax=6.67ms-2 again using either equation

for the graph we can use a= -(2 pi f)*2 xdisplacement to find acceleration at any point during the oscillation.
 
  • #10
In #8 you have max acceleration = 0.73 and in fact it is 6.67 as stated in #9
in SHM acc is proportional to displacement so the graph is a straight line passing through the origin and a = 6.67 when A(amplitude) = +/-10mm
 
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  • #11
thanks technician i got that eventually. for the graph, the value is 6.67 at -10mm straight line passing through zero to -6.67 at +10mm using a=-(2pif)^2 x to find your other acceleration values at displacement points during oscillation
 
  • #12
Hi

Can anyone please explain how the graph is drawn.

Thanks in advance
 

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