Simple Mechanics Problem -- Block connected to a wall by a rope

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The discussion revolves around a mechanics problem involving two blocks connected by a rope, focusing on the forces acting on the blocks and the implications of calculated acceleration values.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both blocks, questioning the calculations of tension and forces involved. There is a focus on the implications of negative acceleration and the conditions under which the blocks are moving.

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Some participants have offered insights into the calculations and have pointed out potential errors in the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made regarding the forces and the system's behavior, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Participants note that the problem may contain inconsistencies, particularly regarding the force required to initiate movement and the effects of gravitational acceleration on the system.

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Block A (5 kg) is connected to the wall with a cord of tension T, and initially at rest on top of block B (10 kg) on a rough floor. If there is an applied force 54 N acting on block B, block B could move to the right while block A is still at rest due to the connecting cord. Assume the coefficient of kinetic friction between blocks A and B and between block B and the ground is μk = 0.3.

(i) Draw free body diagrams of blocks A and B.
(ii) Find the tension T of the cord and the acceleration of block B.
Relevant Equations
F = ma
asm1.png
(So this is the system given)

The following is my analysis:
(i)
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(ii)
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Well, my problem is - I got a negative acceleration and its quite impossible to have block B moving to the left. So I am wondering if there are any mistakes I've made.
 
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Can you write out the equations for all the forces on both blocks? Horizontal and vertical. In particular, can you check the calculation of ##T##. How did you get that?
 
PeroK said:
Can you write out the equations for all the forces on both blocks? Horizontal and vertical. In particular, can you check the calculation of ##T##. How did you get that?

Okay, ##T## is correct.

I think I agree with you. You need a force of slightly more than ##54N## to get this system moving.

Increasing ##g## to ##10 m/s^2## makes things worse, of course.

You can check once more, but unless we've made the same mistake, I think the problem might be wrong. It's a bit suspicious, as ##54N## is approximately the force needed.
 
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Equation 2 is incorrect. ##f_{k1}=\mu_k F_{N1}## and ##F_{N1}## is given by equation 1.
 
kuruman said:
##f_{k1}=\mu_k F_{N1}## and ##F_{N1}## is given by equation 1.

That's true, but considering horizontal forces on block ##A## also gives:

##f_{k1} = T\cos \theta##
 
Ah yes. I forgot A is not accelerating. I agree that the 54 N force is not enough to provide an acceleration to the right. A negative acceleration could be compatible with the situation in which block B is already moving and then block A is dropped on it to slow it down, but that's not what the problem says.
 
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