Simple Special Relativity Homework: Time Dilation and Length Contraction

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The problem involves concepts from special relativity, specifically time dilation and length contraction, as experienced by two observers, Anna and Bob, in relative motion. Anna is on a flatcar moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light (0.6c) relative to Bob, and the problem presents a scenario involving the timing of a flashbulb event as perceived by both observers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of gamma and the implications of time measurements in different frames of reference. There is a focus on understanding the timing of events as perceived by Bob compared to Anna, and whether the time difference aligns with the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the interpretation of the problem and the calculations made regarding the timing of the flashbulb event. Clarifications are being sought regarding the specific measurements being compared and the implications of the results obtained.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of special relativity, including the transformation equations and the definitions of events in different reference frames. There is a noted discrepancy between the calculated time difference and the expected value from the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



Anna is on a railroad flatcar moving at 0.6c relative to Bob. Their clocks read 0 as Anna's center of mass passes Bob's. Anna's arm is outstretched in the direction the flatcar moves, and in her hand is a flashbulb. According to the wristwatch on Anna's hand, the flashbulb goes off at 100ns. The time of this event differs by 27ns. (a) Is it earlier or later than 100ns? (b) How long is Anna's arm (from hand to center of mass) ?


Homework Equations



Transformation Eq.'s:

1. x' = \gamma(x - vt)
2. t' = \gamma(-vx/c2 + t)
3. x = \gamma(x' + vt')
4. t = \gamma(vx'/c2 + t')

5. \gamma = 1/sqrt(1 - v2/c2)


The Attempt at a Solution



For part a, I found gamma to be 1.25, and the time in Bob's frame to be 125ns (not differing by 27ns as the book suggested).

For part b, which I've tried many times, I get an answer of 0m (i.e. the bulb flashes at Anna's center of mass). I call Anna's center of mass at the time of the bulb flash Event 1, and the flash of the bulb Event 2. I also use the convention of Anna's frame of reference as being primed (e.g. x', t', and so on).These are the quantities I have, maybe someone can spot an error in my reasoning:

Event 1: t1' = 100ns, x1' = 0, t1 = ?, x1 = ?

Event 2: t2' = 100ns, x2' = ?, t2 = 125ns (from part a), x2 = 22.5 m (d=vt --> x2 = .6c(125ns) = 22.5m)

Using the transformation eq.'s, I get x1 = 0, which gives me zero for the uncontracted length. Any help is appreciated.
 
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hotcommodity said:
Anna is on a railroad flatcar moving at 0.6c relative to Bob. Their clocks read 0 as Anna's center of mass passes Bob's. Anna's arm is outstretched in the direction the flatcar moves, and in her hand is a flashbulb. According to the wristwatch on Anna's hand, the flashbulb goes off at 100ns. The time of this event differs by 27ns. (a) Is it earlier or later than 100ns? (b) How long is Anna's arm (from hand to center of mass) ?

For part a, I found gamma to be 1.25, and the time in Bob's frame to be 125ns (not differing by 27ns as the book suggested).

Hi hotcommodity! :smile:

No … you're misunderstanding the question.

You've worked out Bob's measurement of time between two things at the same place (as measured by Alice).

The question asks for Bob's measurement of time between Alice passing him and the flashbulb (in her hand) going off.

Try again! :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi hotcommodity! :smile:

No … you're misunderstanding the question.

You've worked out Bob's measurement of time between two things at the same place (as measured by Alice).

The question asks for Bob's measurement of time between Alice passing him and the flashbulb (in her hand) going off.

Try again! :smile:

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying I misunderstood the question being asked for part a or part b?..
 
hotcommodity said:
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying I misunderstood the question being asked for part a or part b?..

part a. :smile:
 

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