Simplifying a trigonometric expression

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a trigonometric expression involving tangent functions and proving a relationship between sine functions. The original poster presents a problem that requires manipulation of trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore different simplifications of the tangent function and question the methods used by the original poster. There are suggestions to express the tangent in terms of sine and to find alternative simplifications for the expressions presented.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and alternative approaches. Some participants express uncertainty about the original poster's simplifications, while others encourage further exploration of the problem. There is a sense of progression as hints lead to a clearer path forward.

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There is an emphasis on using sine functions exclusively, which may influence the direction of the simplifications being considered. The original poster expresses being stuck, indicating a need for guidance without revealing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


If ##\displaystyle \tan\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{y}{2}\right)=\tan^3\left( \frac{\pi}{4}+\frac {x}{2} \right)##, prove that $$\frac{\sin y}{\sin x}=\frac{3+\sin^2 x}{1+3\sin^2x}$$

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$$\tan\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{y}{2}\right)=\frac{1+\tan (y/2)}{1-\tan(y/2)}=\frac{\cos (y/2)+\sin (y/2)}{\cos (y/2)-\sin(y/2)}=\frac{1+\sin y}{\cos y}$$
Similarly,$$\tan\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{x}{2}\right)=\frac{1+\sin x}{\cos x}$$
Plugging them,
$$\frac{1+\sin y}{\cos y}=\left(\frac{1+\sin x}{\cos x}\right)^3$$
Stuck here. Need a few hints to proceed further.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Hi Pranav-Arora! :smile:
Pranav-Arora said:
$$\frac{\cos (y/2)+\sin (y/2)}{\cos (y/2)-\sin(y/2)}=\frac{1+\sin y}{\cos y}$$

That's not the only way of simplifying that, is it? :wink:

(and remember, you want all sins and no coss)
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Pranav-Arora! :smile:


That's not the only way of simplifying that, is it? :wink:

(and remember, you want all sins and no coss)

\tan\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{y}{2}\right)=\frac{\sin(\pi/4+y/2)}{\sin(\pi/4-y/2)}
Would that help?
 
no, i mean find another simplification for $$\frac{\cos (y/2)+\sin (y/2)}{\cos (y/2)-\sin(y/2)}$$ :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
no, i mean find another simplification for $$\frac{\cos (y/2)+\sin (y/2)}{\cos (y/2)-\sin(y/2)}$$ :wink:

I think I still cannot follow your hint. Would the following work?
$$\frac{\cos (y/2)+\sin (y/2)}{\cos (y/2)-\sin(y/2)}=\sqrt{\frac{1+\sin y}{1-\sin y}}$$
 
yes! :smile:

keep going!​
 
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tiny-tim said:
yes! :smile:

keep going!​

Thanks a lot tiny-tim! I have proved it now. :smile:
 

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