Simplifying Double Angle Formula: Cos^2 8x - Sin^2x

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression cos^2(8x) - sin^2(x), which falls under trigonometric identities and simplification techniques in mathematics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore different methods to simplify the expression, including the use of double angle formulas and the concept of expressing terms in a different format. There are attempts to rewrite the expression as a difference of squares and questions about what constitutes simplification.

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Multiple approaches have been suggested, including using reduction identities and questioning the meaning of simplification. Some participants express uncertainty about the simplicity of the original expression compared to potential expanded forms.

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There is mention of imposed homework rules, and some participants express frustration over the lack of a straightforward solution, indicating that the problem was assigned without a clear expected outcome.

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Homework Statement


Simplify cos^2 8x - sin^2x

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The Attempt at a Solution


I thought it would be in the format of cos2x
But I can't seem to figure it out I tried cos (4 * 2x)

And I tried to change the sin^2x into 1-cos^2x and I could get any farther.

Not sure how else to simplify.
 
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Try writing it as cos(2*4x), or let u = 4x and then do it with cos(2u).

EDIT:
Sorry, I rushed through reading your problem. What tools do you have other than the double angle formula? You might be able to write this as a difference of squares first, then apply some identities.

Do you know what the result should look like? How do you know when it is simple enough?

Thanks.
 
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Veronica_Oles said:

Homework Statement


Simplify cos^2 8x - sin^2x

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought it would be in the format of cos2x
But I can't seem to figure it out I tried cos (4 * 2x)

And I tried to change the sin^2x into 1-cos^2x and I could get any farther.

Not sure how else to simplify.

What, really, is meant by "simplify"?

The original result is about as simple as it gets. If you try to express everything in terms of ##\cos(x)## and ##\sin(x)## alone, your expression ##\cos^2 (8x) - \sin^2 x## becomes
$$ 1-\sin^2 x -64 \cos^2 x + 1344 \cos^4 x - 10752 \cos^6 x + 42240 \cos^8 x\\ - 90112 \cos^{10} x
+106496 \cos^{12} x -65536 \cos^{14} x +16384 \cos^{16} x $$
Would you say that expression is simpler than the original one?
 
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RUber said:
Try writing it as cos(2*4x), or let u = 4x and then do it with cos(2u).

EDIT:
Sorry, I rushed through reading your problem. What tools do you have other than the double angle formula? You might be able to write this as a difference of squares first, then apply some identities.

Do you know what the result should look like? How do you know when it is simple enough?

Thanks.
There is no solution unfortunately it was just a problem given:(
 
Ray Vickson said:
What, really, is meant by "simplify"?

The original result is about as simple as it gets. If you try to express everything in terms of ##\cos(x)## and ##\sin(x)## alone, your expression ##\cos^2 (8x) - \sin^2 x## becomes
$$ 1-\sin^2 x -64 \cos^2 x + 1344 \cos^4 x - 10752 \cos^6 x + 42240 \cos^8 x\\ - 90112 \cos^{10} x
+106496 \cos^{12} x -65536 \cos^{14} x +16384 \cos^{16} x $$
Would you say that expression is simpler than the original one?
Yeah first one is definitely simpler.
 
Veronica_Oles said:
Yeah first one is definitely simpler.
I have done this problem before, In my book they wanted it to be
##\cos(9x)\cos(7x)##.
 
use reduction identities
$$\cos^2(8x)=\frac{1+\cos(16x)}{2}\\
\sin^2(x)=\frac{1-\cos(2x)}{2}$$
 

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