Simplifying the Derivative of a Complex Rational Function

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a complex rational function, specifically y=(sqrt(8x^4-5))/(x-1). Participants are exploring methods of differentiation and simplification.

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  • Participants discuss the use of logarithmic differentiation versus traditional differentiation methods, with some questioning the original poster's approach and suggesting a different method.

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There is an ongoing exploration of differentiation techniques, with some participants providing guidance on using logarithmic properties. The original poster acknowledges their method but is seeking further clarification on simplification.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of differentiation rules and the implications of their chosen methods, with some noting potential oversights in the application of the chain rule.

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find derivative of

y=(sqrt(8x^4-5))/ (x-1)

ok...after working out the tricky calculations i get for my final answer:

(32x^4sqrt(8x^4-5)-64x^3sqrt(8x^4-5)) / (16x^6-32x^5+ 16x^4-10x^2+20x-10)

I don't know if you want to do the math...im just wondering if i can simplify it anymore. thanks
 
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I'm pretty sure you didn't do this problem the way you were supposed to. Judging by the title of the thread, you are supposed to do logarithmic differentiation, and I don't see any evidence that you have done this. Instead, it looks like you used the chain rule first and then the quotient rule.

[tex]y~=~\sqrt{\frac{8x^4 - 5}{x - 1}}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow ln(y)~=~ln \left(\sqrt{\frac{8x^4 - 5}{x - 1}}\right )[/tex]
Use the properties of logarithms to write the right side as a difference, and then differentiate with respect to x.
 
well what i did was (going from your previous equation):

ln(y)= ln(sqrt(8x^4-5)) - ln(x-1)...then i just took the derivative and it pretty much eliminated all the ln
 
well what i did was (going from your previous equation):

ln(y)= ln(sqrt(8x^4-5)) - ln(x-1)...then i just took the derivative and it pretty much eliminated all the ln
 
On the left side of the equation you should get 1/y * y'. Did you forget to use the chain rule?
 
oh no...i added that... i just forgot to put it up in my above equation
 

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