Differentiation Help: Get Answers Now

  • Thread starter Thread starter Hollysmoke
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Differentiation
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around differentiation problems, specifically focusing on the correct application of differentiation rules and the handling of algebraic expressions. Participants are examining the derivatives of polynomial and radical functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are sharing their differentiation attempts, questioning the accuracy of each other's work, and discussing the importance of notation, such as the use of parentheses. There are also inquiries about specific derivative calculations and the implications of sign changes in expressions.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with participants providing feedback on each other's differentiation processes. Some have identified errors in calculations and notation, while others are exploring alternative methods for solving the problems. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify misunderstandings and improve accuracy.

Contextual Notes

Participants are addressing issues related to notation and sign errors, which are critical in differentiation. There are also references to specific homework constraints and the need for clarity in mathematical expressions.

Hollysmoke
Messages
185
Reaction score
0
Greetings. I was just wondering if someone could take a look and tell me I did the following correctly:

1)

y=8x^4-5x^2-2/4x^3

(32x^3-10x)(4x^3)-(12x^2)(8x^4-5x^2-2)/(4x^3)^2

128x^6-40x^4+96x^6-60x^4-24x^2/(4x^3)^2

224x^6-100x^4-24x/16x^6

4x(56x^5-25x^3-24)/16x^6

y’=56x^5-25x^3-24/4x^5

2) y=sqroot 5x - sqroot x/5
y=(5x)^1/2 - (x/5)^1/2
y'=1/2(5x)^-1/2 (5) -1/2(x/5)^-1/2 (1/5)
y'=2/5(5x)^-1/2 -1/10(x/5)^-1/2
y'=2/5sqroot(5x) - 1/10(sqroot x/5)
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
1. You should use parentheses in order to indecate numerators and denominator in an unamiguous manner.
2. In your first line, your numerator is 4x^2, not 4x^3

3. In your third line, you've forgotten to change signs when removing a parenthesis
 
I typoed on the first one. Let me edit it. Thanks.
 
Well, it was item 3 that makes your answer wrong.
 
Okay I got the 1st one now for sure. Is the 2nd one correct?
 
Okay one more question:

2x^3+2y^3-9xy=0

dy/dx = 9y+6x^2/9x-6y^2?
 
You were just "bawled out" for not using parentheses!

No, the dy/dx is NOT (9y+ 6x^2)/(9x- 6y^2). You' missed a negative signs.
 
Hollysmoke said:
y'=1/2(5x)^-1/2 (5) -1/2(x/5)^-1/2 (1/5)
y'=2/5(5x)^-1/2 -1/10(x/5)^-1/2
You are wrong when going from the former line to the latter one.
It should read:
[tex]\frac{5}{2 \sqrt{5x}} - \frac{1}{10 \sqrt{\frac{x}{5}}}[/tex]
It's 5/2, not 2/5. :)
There's another way to do the first problem. Divide all by the denominator to get:
[tex]y = \frac{8x ^ 4 - 5 x ^ 2 - 2}{4x ^ 3} = 2x - \frac{5}{4x} - \frac{1}{2x ^ 3}[/tex]
Now let's differentiate it with respect to x, we have:
[tex]y' = 2 + \frac{5}{4x ^ 2} + \frac{3}{2x ^ 4}[/tex]
For the last problem, as HOI pointed out, you've missed quite a few negative signs. :)
 
Thank you very much for your help! I found my errors now and found out what I did wrong. Thanks.

Instead of making another thread, I have one last question:

Given f(x) = x^3-0.5x^2+1, find the value of x where dy/dx = 4

So I found the derivative: f'(x)=3x^2-x
Tried setting it equal to 4

4=3x^2-x

But where do I go from there? Do I rearrange it and use quadratic formula to find the value of x?
 
  • #10
that should work :smile:
 
  • #11
Hollysmoke said:
But where do I go from there? Do I rearrange it and use quadratic formula to find the value of x?
You could do that but an easier option would be to factorise;

[tex]3x^2 - x - 4 = (3x-4)(x+1) = 0[/tex]

:wink:
 
  • #12
"HOI"??

I have a friend who uses the ename "Hog on Ice" which he abbreviates as HOI!
 
  • #13
HallsofIvy said:
"HOI"??

I have a friend who uses the ename "Hog on Ice" which he abbreviates as HOI!
I've heard of Bamby on Ice, but never "Hog on Ice" :smile: :smile: . A quick google didn't reveal its meaning, perhaps you could enlighten us HOI? :wink:
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K