Simplifying Trigonometric Expressions

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around simplifying trigonometric expressions, specifically focusing on two problems involving sine and cosine functions. The original poster presents two expressions to simplify, seeking guidance on their approaches and reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the potential for factoring the expressions and question the application of identities. There are attempts to relate the problems to known algebraic identities and properties of sine and cosine. Some participants express confusion about specific steps and the reasoning behind certain identities.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problems. Some participants have provided helpful guidance, such as suggesting to factor expressions and consider algebraic identities. Others are still grappling with understanding the connections between the identities and the expressions presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the expectation to derive answers using even-odd properties and Pythagorean identities, indicating a focus on foundational trigonometric concepts. There is also mention of uncertainty regarding the application of certain identities and methods.

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Homework Statement


I'm not sure if you can ask about two questions in one thread; they are very similar. If it's not allowed I can make a second thread and edit this one.

Simplify the expressions:

1. sin^3 theta + cos^3 theta / sin theta + cos theta

2. 2-tan theta / 2 csc theta-sec theta


Homework Equations


Pythagorean Identities


The Attempt at a Solution



1. if the either of these were squared, they could be equal to 1. I thought that I could get rid of th denominator and make sin^2 and cos^2 that way...and it would simplify to 1. The answer I am given is actually 1-sin theta cos theta. I think this has to factor somehow, but I'm not certain. I'm not used to dealing with problems that look like this yet.

2. I think this has to do with factoring something out as well, but I'm not sure what. I tried changing them all to variations of sin and cos, but nothing clicked for me.
 
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I wonder how they've got that answer, I don't see anything wrong with what you did. :confused:

What happens if we use the identities

sin^2 \theta = \frac{1}{2} (1-cos2 \theta)

cos^2 \theta = \frac{1}{2} (1+cos2 \theta)
 
For

\frac{sin^3 \theta + cos^3 \theta}{sin \theta + cos \theta}

you should notice that sin3θ+cos3θ=0 when sinθ=cosθ, so try factoring the numerator as (sinθ+cosθ)*f(θ)
 
rock.freak667 said:
For

\frac{sin^3 \theta + cos^3 \theta}{sin \theta + cos \theta}

you should notice that sin3θ+cos3θ=0 when sinθ=cosθ, so try factoring the numerator as (sinθ+cosθ)*f(θ)

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why would sin3theta+cos3theta=0 when sin theta=cos theta. Maybe it's something we haven't covered yet?

We are expected to get the answer from the even odd properties and the Pythagorean Identities.

I apologize if I'm making this difficult. :(
 
My recommendation for the first problem is to ignore momentarily sine and cosine and focus on how one would simplify

\frac{a^3+b^3}{a+b}

and then deal with the resulting expression.

As for the second problem I am assuming you are working with the expression

\frac{2-\tan \theta}{2 \csc \theta - \sec \theta}.

If not, please correct me. If so, then I'd recommend multiplying the numerator and denominator by \sin \theta \cdot \cos \theta and see if that helps simplify the ratio.

--Elucidus
 
TrueStar said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand. Why would sin3theta+cos3theta=0 when sin theta=cos theta. Maybe it's something we haven't covered yet?

We are expected to get the answer from the even odd properties and the Pythagorean Identities.

I apologize if I'm making this difficult. :(

I meant that you can factor a3+b3 into (a+b)*(something).
 
A quick reply for you Elucidus on the first problem. THANK YOU! I get it now. It's the formula (x+y)(x^2-xy+y^2) only with sin and cos. I worked it out on some paper and it fell into place. It's so frustrating when I can't see ways to solve the problem that I've already learned.

As for the second problem, you have the expression correct. I'm going to work on it now.
 
OK, I've worked through the second problem. I doubted myself on this one. I changed everything to sin/cos and thought about multiplying everything by sin and cos. I thought that wasn't right and I wasn't sure if I was multiplying correctly anyway. I should just try my ideas next time.

Anyway, it all fell into place and I understand how it works. Now I can sleep well tonight. Thank you all so much for your time and patience. :)
 

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