Simulating Random Walk: Calculating Diffusion Length

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around simulating a random walk to calculate the diffusion length, particularly in the context of a Gaussian fit to the resulting distribution. Participants explore the relationship between random walk models, diffusion processes, and the mathematical formulations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how to derive the diffusion length from a Gaussian fit obtained from a 1D random walk simulation.
  • Another participant references the concept of a Gaussian random walk and its application in modeling real-world data, mentioning the root mean squared expected translation distance after n steps.
  • A participant proposes a relationship for the diffusion length of an exciton, suggesting that they can fit the Gaussian to find the expected translation distance.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the specifics of the random walk, questioning whether the steps are of fixed length or normally distributed, and seeks clarification on the dimensionality of the walk and the concept of diffusion length.
  • A later reply indicates a potential resolution, presenting a partial differential equation related to diffusion and suggesting a method to relate the simulation parameters to the diffusion length.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are differing interpretations of the random walk setup and the application of diffusion concepts. Some questions remain unresolved regarding the specifics of the simulation and the definitions involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about step lengths, the dimensionality of the random walk, and the specific definitions of terms like "diffusion length" and "exciton." These factors may affect the applicability of the proposed relationships.

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I am trying to do simulations of a random walk, I get out a normal distribution in 1D how do I get the "diffusion length" from the gaussian fit?
 
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Gaussian random walk

A random walk having a step size that varies according to a normal distribution is used as a model for real-world time series data such as financial markets. The Black-Scholes formula for modeling equity option prices, for example, uses a gaussian random walk as an underlying assumption.

Here, the step size is the inverse cumulative normal distribution Φ − 1(z,μ,σ) where 0 ≤ z ≤ 1 is a uniformly distributed random number, and μ and σ are the mean and standard deviations of the normal distribution, respectively.

For steps distributed according to any distribution with a finite variance (not necessarily just a normal distribution), the root mean squared expected translation distance after n steps is

E|S_n| = σ√n.
 
So, if I am looking for the diffusion length of an exciton with lifetime [tex]\tau[/tex], where [tex]l_{D}=\sqrt{D_{X}\tau}[/tex], and I want to find out what the equivalent diffusion length in my simulation is where I am using random steps of length dx, I can fit the gaussian and find the E mentioned above?
 
Your original question and your comment are confusing me. Are you talking about a random walk with steps of fixed length (random direction) or are the step lengths distributed normally? Also, how many dimensions is your walk? I am not familiar with the physics notion (exciton) and the diffusion length (?) formula.
 
I think I figured it out.
In general (1D) you can solve for:

[itex]\frac{\partial n_{x}}{\partial t} = D_{x}\frac{\partial^{2} n_{x}}{\partial x}-\frac{n_{x}}{\tau} + I(x,t)[/itex]

This can be solved with a Gaussian and [itex]\sigma^{2} = 4D_{x}t[/itex]. What I was trying to do was using a random step MATLAB simulation with a time step, lifetime, and spatial step figure out what the equivalent diffusion length was.
 

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