Simulation, Geometry & Mesh Creation: Tool Suggestions & System Requirements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the selection of software tools for simulation, geometry creation, and mesh generation, specifically for a duct with a turbine as part of a postgraduate research project. Participants share their experiences and recommendations regarding suitable software and system requirements for effective simulation in computational fluid dynamics (CFD).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the best software for simulation and mesh creation, indicating a beginner's level in the field.
  • Another participant suggests starting with simpler simulations, like lid-driven cavity flow, before tackling complex turbine simulations, and recommends checking university resources for available software.
  • A participant mentions that Ansys is intuitive but notes the complexity of simulating fluid interactions with turbines.
  • Pointwise is recommended as a superior mesh generator, while CFD++ is suggested for better results in turbine simulations, albeit requiring advanced computing resources.
  • There is a debate about the classification of Ansys as "beginner grade," with some arguing it is easier to use than other software, while others highlight its certification for use in critical industries.
  • One participant shares personal experience with ACE/FASTRAN, noting its ease of use despite poor results, and emphasizes the challenges of using more complex software like CFD++ on supercomputers.
  • ANSYS Fluent is described as versatile but not necessarily the best for all applications, with some participants suggesting that other solvers may outperform it in specific areas.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial burden of acquiring software independently, as the original poster is expected to fund the software themselves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the suitability of different software packages, with no consensus on a single best option. Disagreements arise regarding the classification of Ansys and the challenges associated with using more advanced tools like CFD++. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most appropriate software for the original poster's needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the varying levels of complexity and user-friendliness of different software packages, as well as the need for significant computational resources for certain simulations. The discussion reflects the participants' diverse experiences and the subjective nature of software evaluation in the context of CFD.

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Hi Guys,

I have an query. I would like to know the best tool for Simulation, Geomtry and Mesh creation. I want to simulate a duct with a turbine in it as a Part of my research project. I am beginner for the simualtion field so please suggest accordingly the appropriate software. Also please suggest the system specification to run the same tool.
 
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Is this an undergrad research project? CFD is an extensive field and each of the pieces that you mentioned; geometry creation, mesh generation, and simulation take years of experience before being able to create something so complex as a turbine. As a beginner, I would suggest that you start with something far more simple, like the well studied lid-driven cavity flow.

There are many different software packages available, but you'll need to see what your University offers. Ansys produces fairly intuitive CFD software.
 
Thanks for your reply Smed, Its a post Graduation project. Nothing is available in the institute, Only I have to arrange the software at my own. That why I ask for the most suitable software. About Ansys I have heard that interaction of fluid with turbine is quite difficult.
 
Pointwise is the best mesh generator by far. CFD++ seems to give the best results for most things. ANSYS is a decent beginner grade software, but you might need CFD++ for turbine stuff. You'll probably also need to be running it on a super computer. The mesh you'll require for decent results might need in the area of 64 cpus. If you go this route though, you'll have to learn linux as well.
 
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Vadar2012 said:
ANSYS is a decent beginner grade software

Hm... I wouldn't call a software package that is certified compliant with design standards in the nuclear industry "beginner grade", but YMMV.
 
AlephZero said:
Hm... I wouldn't call a software package that is certified compliant with design standards in the nuclear industry "beginner grade", but YMMV.

I'm not saying it's bad, it is a hell of a lot easier to use than the other programs that seem to give better resuls, and by better results I mean closer to experimental. In my experience, much closer. It's a damm good program, just the best to use for people starting out. You wouldn't want to start out with CFD++ on a supercomputer having to use a command shell. That'd scare you off forever.

I started off with ACE/FASTRAN, which had it's own mesh generation and computational environments. Very good to learn with, but a terrible terrible program in terms of results.

Note, I did scramjet combustion engine research, not a lot of programs are good at simulating turbulent hypersonic conditions. I'm just referring to ease of use.
 
ANSYS Fluent is a great code. It is also a general code, so it is good at a lot of things but not necessarily great any most of them. There are a lot of areas where other solvers are better. I know, for example, that a lot of academe uses GASP for high-speed aerodynamics problems.

Either way, the more pervasive problem is that the OP is wanting to fund this himself, which is going to be exorbitantly expensive.
 

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