Single Slit Diffraction question

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The discussion revolves around the topic of single slit diffraction, specifically focusing on the equation for dark fringes and the values of m used in the context of destructive interference. Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the inclusion of both odd and even integer values of m in the equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of the equation for dark fringes and questioning why all integer values of m are applicable rather than just odd integers. There is also a discussion about the differences between single slit diffraction and two-source interference.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and raising questions about the derivation and application of the equation. Some participants suggest that there may be confusion between different interference patterns, while others are exploring the mathematical distinctions between single slit diffraction and multiple slit setups.

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There is mention of potential confusion between single slit diffraction and two-source interference, as well as the mathematical differences in calculating minima and maxima for these scenarios. Participants are navigating through these complexities without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement


I'm having difficulty understanding why this equation makes sense for the following m values.


Homework Equations


The following is stated in my textbook.
For dark fringes,
sinθ = (mλ)/a
where λ is the wavelength of light in nanometers and a is the width of the single slit.
m is ±1, ±2, ±3, ±4, etc..

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand where the equation arises from, however, what I am not understanding is why all values of m are used in this equation and not just the odd ones. Because if I go backwards, here is what happens:

The path length difference is (a/2)sinθ, and for destructive interference, the following must hold:
path length difference = (m/2)λ, where m is an odd integer because the waves have to be out of phase to destroy each other through superposition.

So this is true then:
(a/2)sinθ = (m/2)λ but m has to be odd.

My book canceled the twos in the denominator and divided by a on both sides, but made it so all values of m could work. I find this very confusing. Why isn't it only odd values of m?
 
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I understand where the equation arises from, however, what I am not understanding is why all values of m are used in this equation and not just the odd ones.
If you understood the derivation, how come you you don't see why the m values are not odd? Isn't that part of the derivation?

How did the book arrange things so that all values integer values of m would work?
Have you looked for other examples of the derivation? i.e.
http://www.math.ubc.ca/~cass/courses/m309-03a/m309-projects/krzak/
 
The path length difference is (a/2)sinθ, and for destructive interference, the following must hold:
path length difference = (m/2)λ, where m is an odd integer because the waves have to be out of phase to destroy each other through superposition.

I think you might be confusing 2 source interference with single slit diffraction?
For single slit diffraction MINIMA occur when aSinθ = nλ n = 1,2,3... (NOT 0 !)
 
Thanks for the responses. Yes I might be confusing the two. But I thought for dark fringes in general, the wavelengths have to be out of phase, thus corresponding to a path length difference equal to (n+1/2)λ, where n = 0, 1, 2, 3, etc.
 
your general view is correct but a single slit is completely different (mathematically) from 2 slits or a diffraction grating.
Ironically...it turns out that the equation to calculate the position of MINIMA for a single slit 'looks like' the equation to calculate the positions of MAXIMA for 2 slits or a diffraction grating.
Even worse !...The positions for MAXIMA with the single slit are not even 1/2 way between the MINIMA ! the maths is more difficult...have you met it??
 
No I have not. But thanks for telling me that they are very different from one another. I was trying to relate the two and got very confused!
 

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