Singularity or just a very small, massive shell?

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The discussion centers on the nature of black holes and the behavior of objects falling into them. It posits that as an object approaches a black hole, it experiences time dilation, making it appear to slow down from an outside observer's perspective, while the object itself continues to fall at a normal rate. There is speculation about whether matter forms a "shell" around the singularity instead of reaching it, with the idea that mass increases as it approaches the speed of light. Participants express uncertainty about the implications of relativity and the formation of black holes, questioning if matter can actually reach the center. The conversation highlights the complexities of black hole physics and the challenges of understanding these phenomena.
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The easy way out is to say that a singularity has a finite mass and an infinite density.

However we don't have a good mathematical description of a singularity, so we don't really know.
 
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em370 said:
Are singularities actually finitely dense? The basis of the singularity is that gravity is so strong that the object contracts without stopping and will never slow down as their is nothing to stop it( I could be wrong in this as shown by my previous immense lack of understanding). Will it really become infinitely dense or do we just say that because it will continue getting denser and denser to the point where it would no longer make any sense or even matter to measure the density? I read something on the internet about the Schwarzschild radius but I think it was talking about the size of the event horizon instead of the actual singularity.

Vorde said:
The easy way out is to say that a singularity has a finite mass and an infinite density.

However we don't have a good mathematical description of a singularity, so we don't really know.

I refer you both to this thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=226671
 

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