Sinking bucket - differential equations

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The discussion revolves around modeling the sinking of a bucket with a hole underwater using ordinary differential equations (ODEs). The user understands how to solve ODEs but struggles with creating the model. They establish the initial condition where buoyancy equals gravity, indicating the bucket floats before the hole appears. A suggestion is made to define the rate of water filling the bucket as a function of time, v(t), and to express it as a proportional relationship to develop a differential equation. The conversation emphasizes the need for guidance on formulating the model effectively.
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Homework Statement



Let's have a bucket flowing in water. Now we make a hole underwater. How fast will the bucket sink completely under water?

It is a question from course called Ordinary Differential Equation, so I'm supposed to establish an ODE to solve this problem. I understand how to solve such equation, but I'm really bad at creating models.

The details about water, where the hole is or how the bucket looks like are not specified - can either be general or taken to be insignificant.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried by specifying the t0 state: we know that it floats, so buoyancy equals gravity: m0 = rho_w * h * Ab (where m0 is the mass of bucket, rho_w is the density of water, h is how much the bucket has sunk when floating and Ab is the area of base of backet assuming rectangular bucket for simplicity).

Now the hole appears. I have no idea how to employ the rate of flowing water (since differentials are to be used) into the equations to come up with an model to solve.

Any help or the nudge towards right direction (articles / solved examples) highly appreciated.
 
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hi markswabinski! welcome to pf! :smile:

i assume the bucket starts empty

suppose the rate of filling the bucket is v(t)

what do you think v is likely to be proportional to?

write that as a differential equation (don't bother with any constants such as ρ or A, just include them all in one big constant C :wink:) …

show us what you get :smile:
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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