Water Height in Bucket with Filling Hose

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The problem involves a cylindrical bucket with a specified height and diameter, which has a hole at the bottom. Water flows into the bucket from a hose at a given rate, and the objective is to determine the height of the water in the bucket.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Bernoulli's equation and Torricelli's law to relate the flow rates and velocities of water entering and exiting the bucket. Some question the necessity of considering pressure and velocity at the hose, while others suggest focusing on the flow rate into the bucket and the equilibrium with the outflow.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem. Some participants have provided insights into calculating velocities and flow rates, while others have raised concerns about dimensional consistency in the equations being used. No consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, including the dimensions of the bucket and the flow rates provided. There is some confusion regarding the direction of water flow and the application of fluid dynamics principles.

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Homework Statement


A cylindrical bucket, open at the top, is 28.0 cm high and 10.0cm in diameter. A circular hole with a cross-sectional area 1.73cm2 is cut in the center of the bottom of the bucket. Water flows into the bucket from a tube above it at the rate of 2.11×10−4 m3/s. How high will the water in the bucket go (in centimeters)?


Homework Equations


P_1+1/2\rho v_1^{2}+\rho gy_1 = P_2+1/2\rho v_2^{2}+\rho gy_2

A_1v_1=A_2v_2

density of water is 1000kg/m3


The Attempt at a Solution


I let 1 be the top of the water, 2 be the hose flowing into the bucket and 3 be right above the hose but in the larger bucket. I know the pressure at 3 must equal the pressure at 2.

The area of bucket is π(r)(r) = π(0.05)(0.05) = 0.00785

P_1+1/2\rho v_1^{2}+\rho gy_1 = P_2+1/2\rho v_2^{2}+\rho gy_2

P_1+1/2\rho v_1^{2}+\rho gy_1 = P_2+1/2\rho v_2^{2}

P_3+\rho gh+1/2\rho \frac{A_2v_2}{A_1}^{2}+\rho gy_1 = P_2+1/2\rho v_2^{2}

1/2\rho \frac{A_2v_2}{A_1}^2+2\rho gy_1 = 1/2\rho v_2^2

1/2 \frac{A_2v_2}{A_1}^2+2 gh = 1/2v_2^2

2gh = 1/2v_2^2-1/2 \frac{A_2v_2}{A_1}^2

2gh = 1/2 (2.11*10^{-4})^2 - 1/2 \frac{(0.000173)(2.11*10^{-4})}{0.00785}^2

2gh = 1.054999*10^{-4}

h = 5.377*10^{-6} m = 5.377*10^{-4}cm
 
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I think you should ignore the pressure, velocity, etc., of the hose and just use the given value for the rate at which it delivers fluid. Presumably you want the rate at which fluid leaves the bottom of the container to equal this input rate, that way there will be an equilibrium.

Bernoulli's equation boils down to Torricelli's law for the velocity of fluid from an aperture:

## v = \sqrt{2 g h} ##

where h is the "head" of fluid above the aperture. You should have enough information to turn that velocity into a flow rate...
 
Oh, thank you! I had thought that water was flowing into the bucket from the hole in the bottom ... oops
 
So to find the velocity that the water is rising in the bucket, I know that volume = velocity * area
v_1=\frac{2.11*10^{-4}}{π(0.05)^{2}} = 0.02686 m/s

A_1v_1=A_2v_2
v_2 = \frac{A_1v_1}{A_2} = \frac{(π)(0.05)^2(0.02686)}{1.73*10^{-4}} = 1.21965 m/s

pv_1^{2} + 2gh = v_2^2

h=\frac{v_2^2-v_1^2}{2g} = \frac{(1.21965)^2-(0.02686)^2}{(2)(9.81)} = 0.07578m = 7.578 cm

Is this now correct?
 
PirateFan308 said:
So to find the velocity that the water is rising in the bucket, I know that volume = velocity * area
v_1=\frac{2.11*10^{-4}}{π(0.05)^{2}} = 0.02686 m/s

A_1v_1=A_2v_2
v_2 = \frac{A_1v_1}{A_2} = \frac{(π)(0.05)^2(0.02686)}{1.73*10^{-4}} = 1.21965 m/s

pv_1^{2} + 2gh = v_2^2
The above equation does not look dimensionally correct. You've got a pressure x velocity2 term on the left and a velocity2 term on the right.

Instead, recognize that once you've calculated v2 above, it will be equal to the velocity as given by Torricelli's law. That is,
v_2 = \sqrt{2 g h}
and you can solve for h.
 
Thank you!
 

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