Sinusoidal Wave: What is Time Displacement?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time displacement in the context of a sinusoidal wave represented by the equation y=Asin(ωt±α). Participants are exploring the relationship between phase angle, frequency, and time period within this framework.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of time displacement and its potential relation to frequency and time period. There are attempts to clarify the role of the phase angle and angular velocity in the context of the sine wave equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing explanations and seeking clarification on the original question regarding time displacement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between angular velocity, frequency, and time period, but there remains uncertainty about the specific definition of time displacement.

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There is a lack of clarity on the definition of "time displacement," which is prompting participants to question whether it relates to the phase angle or the periodic properties of the sine wave. Additionally, the original poster expresses uncertainty about the relevance of the provided explanations to their question.

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If the expression forsinewave is y=Asin(ωt±α)
then α is the phase angle.
But what is time displacement looking at that expression?
Thank you
 
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Time displacement? I assume you mean how long it takes for the sine wave to repeat a cycle, or its [STRIKE]frequency[/STRIKE].

All sine waves repeat every [itex]2\pi[/itex] units. So what we're looking for is

[tex]wt_1+\alpha+2\pi[/tex]

to be equal to

[tex]wt_2+\alpha[/tex]

and we want to find t2 in terms of t1, t2>t1

So equating each expression and simplifying:

[tex]wt_1+\alpha+2\pi=wt_2+\alpha[/tex]

[tex]wt_2=wt_1+2\pi[/tex]

[tex]t_2=t_1+\frac{2\pi}{w}[/tex]

So clearly from this, we can see that the time it takes from the first point in a cycle (t1) to the next (t2) takes [itex]2\pi/w[/itex] time.

Also to get a more intuitive understanding of this, just think about the length of a complete cycle for sin(x), then sin(2x), sin(x/3) - which is the same as sin(1/3*x) etc.


edit: meant to say period, not frequency.
 
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Thank you for your really good explanation.
But I am not sure this is the answer to the question I was given. I am not sure.
Can frequency and time period T be called time displacement? Is it not about that phase angle?
Thanks any way
 
Is it ω that is worrying you?
ω is an 'angular velocity' it is the number of cycles (given in radians) completed per second
1 cycle is 2∏ radians and therefore ω = 2∏/T where T is the time for 1 cycle... the time period

So T = 2∏/ω

and frequency f = 1/T = ω/2∏

Hope this helps
 
greg997 said:
If the expression forsinewave is y=Asin(ωt±α)
then α is the phase angle.
But what is time displacement looking at that expression?
Thank you

You haven't given the definition of "time displacement". If you write[tex] sin(\omega t \pm \alpha) = \sin(\omega(t \pm \frac \alpha \omega))[/tex] is it the [itex]\pm\frac \alpha \omega[/itex] you want? (Notice that is a question; I'm just guessing here).
 

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