Sliding ladder leaning against wall, and a triangle of maximum area

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The discussion revolves around two mathematical problems involving a beam leaning against a wall and a triangle inscribed in a semicircle. For the first problem, participants analyze the rate of change of the angle between the beam and the ground as the bottom is pulled away from the wall. There is some confusion regarding the area of the triangle formed by the beam, with one participant asserting that the area is constant, while others clarify that the area changes as the beam falls. The second problem focuses on maximizing the area of the triangle inscribed in the semicircle, concluding that angle B should be 45 degrees for maximum area. The conversation highlights the importance of applying calculus and trigonometric identities correctly in solving these problems.
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Hello,
Below are two questions i am unsure of. :rolleyes: Can someone please verify my answers and tell me if i am doing something wrong. thank-you for your help. :smile:

1. A rigid beam 30 m long is leaning against a vertical wall. If the bottom of the beam is pulled horizontally away from the wall at 3 m/s, how fast is the angle between the beam and the ground changing when the bottom of the beam is 18 m from the wall?

sinθ = y/30

cosθ = 18/30
θ= 53.13

A= bh/2
A= [(x)(30sinθ)] / 2
A'= [(30sinθ) (dx/dt) + (x)(30cosθ) (dθ/dt)] / 2
0= [30sin(53.13) (3) + (18)(30cos53.13) (dθ/dt)] / 2
dθ/dt= -6.67 m/s

2.Triangle ABC is inscribed in a semicircle with diameter BC=12 cm. Find the value of angle B that produces the triangle of maximum area.
Hint: An angle inscribed in a semi-circle is a right triangle.

A=bh/2
A=(12cosB)(12sinB)
=72(2cosBsinB)
=72(sin2B)
A'=72(cos2B)
0=72cos2B
cos2B=0
2B=90°
B=45°

i got sin2B using the trig double angle forumla sin2x=2sinxcosx
 
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There's a very elegant approach for the second problem. No calculus required (!) :

A_{\mbox{triangle}} =\frac{AB\cdot AC}{2} (1)

Constraint, following Pythagora's theorem

AB^{2}+AC^{2}=12^{2} (2)

(2) can be written

\left(AB-AC\right)^{2} =12^{2}-2 AB\cdot AC (2')

U impose that the product (which by (1)is ~Area) be maximum, therefore the RHS would have to be minimum. Since the LHS can be no less than 0, one gets that it has to be 0.

AB=AC \Rightarrow \hat{CBA} =45 \mbox{deg}

Daniel.
 
thanks...but is the first question right?
 
The reasoning is okay. The area of the triangle is indeed constant. I didn't check the numbers. I hope they're okay.

Daniel.
 
punjabi_monster said:
=72(sin2B)
A'=72(cos2B)
0=72cos2B

You forgot the chain rule here, but in the end it didn't affect your answer.

A = 72\sin{(2B)}
A' = 72\cos{(2B)}*2
 
dextercioby said:
The reasoning is okay. The area of the triangle is indeed constant. I didn't check the numbers. I hope they're okay.

Daniel.
Are you referring to problem 1? Why would the area be constant? The area goes to 0 as the beam falls to the floor. What is definitely constant is the length of the beam- the length of the hypotenuse: Pythagorean theorem: x2+ y2= 900 where x is the distance of the bottom of the beam from the wall and y is the height of the other end up the wall. Differentiating with respect to t,
2xx'+ 2yy'= 0. At the given instant, x= 18 so y= \sqrt{900-18^2}= \sqrt{576}= 24. 18(3)+ 24(y&#039;)= 0 so y&#039;= -54/24= -2.25. y= 30 sin(θ) so <br /> y&#039;= 30 cos(θ)θ&#039;. When x= 18, &amp;theta= 53.13 degrees and <br /> cos(53.13)= 0.6000. -2.25= (30)(0.6)(θ&#039;) so θ&#039;= (-2.25)/(18)= -.125 or -1/8 degrees per second.
 
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