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The forum discussion centers on performance issues experienced by users when loading pages with LaTeX content on the Physics Forums website, particularly with Firefox and Chrome browsers. Users reported significant delays, with LaTeX rendering times reaching up to 2.5 minutes. The discussion highlights the impact of the MathJax 2.5 Beta update, which improved rendering speeds, particularly in Chrome. Users also noted intermittent posting issues, likely linked to ISP performance, specifically CenturyLink.

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  • Understanding of LaTeX rendering in web environments
  • Familiarity with MathJax 2.5 Beta
  • Basic knowledge of browser performance metrics
  • Experience with network troubleshooting tools like ping and tracert
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  • Investigate the latest features of MathJax, particularly "Fast Preview"
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This discussion is beneficial for web developers, forum administrators, and users experiencing slow page loads due to LaTeX content, as well as anyone interested in optimizing web performance and troubleshooting ISP-related issues.

  • #31
Greg Bernhardt said:
We're on MathJax 2.5 Beta. How is the speed now?
I did a test a few hours ago. The results were 72 s in Firefox, 24 s in Chrome. Now it's...uh...apparently there are two answers for each browser. In Firefox, the LaTeX (in post #12 of the thread linked to in post #1 of this thread) shows up after 8 s. The font is different from before. Then about 29 s later, the font changes back to the old font. In Chrome, the first font appears after less than 3 s, and the second font about 29 s after that. The second font doesn't look exactly the same in the two browsers. The symbols are very slightly thinner in Chrome, but I don't see any other differences.

This is certainly a huge improvement.
 
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  • #32
Fredrik said:
The font is different from before. Then about 29 s later, the font changes back to the old font.
I think this is a new feature called "Fast Preview". It is still to be determined if it's helpful or now for slow loaders.
 
  • #33
No troubles last few days

something has much improved somewhere

thanks !
 
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  • #34
Web pages on this site load pretty fast for me (Win 7 with IE 11 and a generally fast connection), but in the past (> 2 years ago), some pages that were Tex-heavy would load very slowly. For this reason I use Tex judiciously, mostly for integrals and matrices, and sometimes for more complicated fractions. If all I need is exponents or subscripts, I mostly use BBcode.
 
  • #35
ignoring buttons was back again

i downloaded a program winmtr that starts a loop of tracerts to whatever site you tell it
and gives a stream of results without further typing.

looks to me like the trouble is internal to my ISp, as you said last week

winmtr automates beating on the keyboard.
and seems handy for waking them up.

Great stress reliever !|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.0.1 - 0 | 15 | 15 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 3 |
| dslrouter.westell.com - 0 | 15 | 15 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 3 |
| 162.104.100.1 - 0 | 15 | 15 | 25 | 29 | 35 | 35 |
| 206.51.93.228 - 0 | 15 | 15 | 22 | 29 | 40 | 27 |
| 206.51.93.224 - 0 | 15 | 15 | 31 | 38 | 65 | 42 |
|bb-kscbmonr-jx9-02-xe-11-1-0.core.centurytel.net - 0 | 15 | 15 | 41 | 46 | 65 | 45 |
|bb-kscbmonr-jx9-01-ae0.core.centurytel.net - 0 | 15 | 15 | 43 | 51 | 58 | 55 |
|bb-dllstx37-jx9-02-xe-11-1-0.core.centurytel.net - 0 | 15 | 15 | 49 | 57 | 73 | 53 |
| No response from host - 100 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| dap-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net - 0 | 15 | 15 | 54 | 62 | 103 | 60 |
| No response from host - 100 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| No response from host - 100 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |

| 4.59.36.94 - 0 | 15 | 15 | 56 | 62 | 78 | 56 |
| ae1.dar01.sr01.dal01.networklayer.com - 0 | 15 | 15 | 54 | 58 | 76 | 56 |
| po1.fcr03.sr04.dal01.networklayer.com - 0 | 15 | 15 | 60 | 66 | 78 | 60 |
| physicsforums.com - 0 | 15 | 15 | 53 | 60 | 82 | 56 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud ProviderTake that, varlets !

old jim
 
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  • #36
Well Well Well !

a new DSL box from my ISP has cured a host of problems, this one included (knock on wood).

My Westell 6100 DSL modem and DLINK DIR-601 router were somehow at fault.
A Westell 7500 combo modem/router outed them as co-conspirators working together to push me over the edge.
They very nearly made it, see end of post #28.

Cured a host of other problems too. It appears they were set up to not allow internet streaming devices, and to randomly change passwords.

Offending modem/router are hereby pronounced guilty and await sentencing.
Suggestions ?

old jim
 
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  • #37
jim hardy said:
a new DSL box from my ISP has cured a host of problems, this one included (knock on wood).

Good news!

jim hardy said:
Suggestions ?

Take it out back with a baseball bat :)
 
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  • #39
jim hardy said:
i'm mad at my isp, too , turns out they've known for a couple years my modem was obsolete
I had that a few years ago. My connection was getting unreliable and I call the ISP and they tell me my modem is too old.
 
  • #40
It's baaaccckkkk... EE forum, how to measure current welding...

shutdown and restart browser without logging out of PF worked ,
it didnt keep my post (thank goodness, else it'd have put up multiple copies)
tracert didnt wake it up this time though it did reach PF.
 

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